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Old 24th March 2008, 19:59   #91
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The indigo/cs/indica is meant for taxi drivers and not for normal people. I did a testdrive for a friend who was considering. Its probably the most unrefined/crappy vehicle i've ever driven.
Guys, why all this on a LPG price thread? Why cant we keep it separately on a Alto vs Indigo thread (If that is ever neccessary), Mods, please rescue.
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Old 24th March 2008, 22:47   #92
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High time that MSIL stopped wagonr LPG,lol.Why isn't there anybody to question such price hikes?Its really outrageous pricing altogether.
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The indigo/cs/indica is meant for taxi drivers and not for normal people. I did a testdrive for a friend who was considering. Its probably the most unrefined/crappy vehicle i've ever driven. The diesel clatter is unbearable. The dinky turbo hardly provides any boost... getting to 60 in 2nd gear makes the car cry in pain. The gearshifter is the most imprecise one I've ever laid my hands on. The handling of the vehicle is craptastic with no feel of the road from the steering at all. The foot pedals are so hard, i got an ache on my foot within 30 mins.

Simply put if you are driving it yourself, its a bigtime downgrade from an alto. If its gonna be driven by a driver, then the car is okay.

I think, maybe you actually took a test drive of a taxi vehicle....come to think of it, The Indigo and Indica Turbo are great drives-although on the lower end of the market, they still sell a lot and that too to Non Taxi Operators.

There are cars which are maintained and some that are not, The Indica Engine is not what you call a Skoda Silent, but then its not a Slug as you have placed it out.

Other than That I don't see any reason for such Chaos...!

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Sorry to shift from the topic again, but as a proud owner of an Indigo i thought i should reply.

I have owm my Indigo Vs diesel for a year now. Yes on a cold start there is a slight engine clutter but as the engine heats up that goes away.

There is nothing wrong with the steering or the gears they are good. The clutch pedals are not bad either.

However the main advantage i see is the price of spares, which i guess is the lowest in maruthi and Tata.

Overall a good vehicle, and much worth the 5-6 lacs price you pay for it.
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Old 18th August 2008, 22:56   #95
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Been using a closed loop LPg kit with lambda on my accent.
As fas as economy goes its definitely the lesser of the two evils here , but starting with one of the less efficient cars like Accent , it means not too much more than 1.30/ rs to 1.50 rs/lit of savings over petrol in real world.
But mind you , at 36.10 rs/ lit on highway with economy fig of 9.5/lit translates into Rs.3.80 /km which is not bad for such a smooth ride ( LPG is far smoother on the motor than most diesels around ) and reasonable range ( i get about 400 km per tank full ). And most Reliance pumps which have closed down petrol & diesel retailing are selling auto Lpg at a discount of rs.1/lit over mumbai pumps.
Unfortunately , govt. does not offer any incentives / subsidies to run the clean Fuel and since petrol rates are not on parity with int. rates , converting to Lpg at todays rates does not become a viable alternative to keep your savings bills low.......
LPG unlike Cng does not have any serious voter bank incentives for our pseudo socialist govt. to be given even a partial subsidy.
But when petrol rates actually hit the roof and subsidy is thrown out then the real big time potential of LPG shall be evident.
For now its only the lesser of the two evils !
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But when petrol rates actually hit the roof and subsidy is thrown out then the real big time potential of LPG shall be evident.
For now its only the lesser of the two evils !
Thats the time I am waiting for & thats why i still haven't removed the LPG kit from my car. I have given myself 6 months plus another 6 months grace time for this to happen. I hope the LPG price does not keep following the petrol price.
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its already Rs 39.01 in bangalore
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its prices around 36.something, outside the octroi limits of Thane. I am frequently reminising the times it used to cost 23 bucks a litre.

But hope prevails. Every time i refill, i hope that the price drops the next month. But it does'nt.
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Thats the time I am waiting for & thats why i still haven't removed the LPG kit from my car. I have given myself 6 months plus another 6 months grace time for this to happen. I hope the LPG price does not keep following the petrol price.
I just couldn't wait that long, wanted more space & better tune. The price of LPG was 39.xx when i decided to call it quits. The kit is off now. But the price has also come down to 29.xx.
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for the last 6 8 months I have filled LPG at prices in the range of 35 to 37 Rs/lit
mid nov it dropped to 33.4 and yesterday filled up at 29.04 in Navi mumbai

It now feels much more wallet friendly
totally agree with highnoon
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But when petrol rates actually hit the roof and subsidy is thrown out then the real big time potential of LPG shall be evident.
I was never able to realize the price advantage since i installed the LPG kit in dec last year .
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Old 2nd January 2009, 19:46   #101
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" It now feels much more wallet friendly
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Now i could fill it at aegis panvel pump till 1/01/09 for 28.20/lt plus rs.20/ discount on every 500 / fill
the place is colder than mumbai, so i probly end up getting more gas per fill. Accent gives11/ 12 km/lit on Mumbai Lonavala (old rd )highway after recent tune up & new plugs. Thats translates into around Rs.2.50 /km
thts staggering my friend.
I had luckily recovered my kit cost just aBOUT A TIME WHEN THE LPG PRICES started moving north, so now some serious saving on my lonavala runs
That apart i am sure the the price would have come down on first of this yr. bv about rs.3/lit.
My other car a petrol indigo which gives around 17/18 kmpl on the same road without AC though the city avg. is 10/12 kmpl , now seems quite expensive to run.
I used to favor the indigo when lpg was 36.75/lit. As with a highway mileage so high and petrol at panvel being a couple of bucks cheaper than mumbai, the running cost per lit was still below Rs. 3/km.
Great for a heavy sedan.
Lets pray for stable / even lower Lpg prices this yras our new yr. wish
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Thats translates into around Rs.2.50 /km
Still doesn't make a very convincing argument in favor of LPG. For example, a diesel like the Logan & Dzire would easily give 17 - 18 kpl on the Lonavla stretch. Thus working out cheaper @ about Rs. 2 / km.
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The advantages and convenience of a diesel can never be beaten by LPG. LPG anyways is expensive than diesel in running and CNG, though cheaper, gets beaten by the convenience and drivability of a Diesel.

Given a choice, it will be a diesel anyday.
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my optra gives lpg average of 8.5 km/l with a/c on full load city and 13 kmpl with a/c full load highway. LPG price here is 27.32/lt which should come down to 22- 23 in jan first week . My car is 108 bhp as compared to 65 bhp logan diesel so I enjoy the luxury and power of a refined petrol engine at around Rs. 2 a ltr. further in small towns like ours 75% of lpg based cars run on domestic lpg transfers which is around Rs 400/- for 14kg cylinder which contains 25lts so it turns out to be around Rs. 16/- per lt all the year round. I know it is illegal and so I dont use it but it is very easily available and turns out to be at half the price of diesel . with kits costing just 13k to 14k with rto transfer its ecnomical . that is why lpg cars like santro xeta wagon R are very popular these cars give 16 -18 kmpl on highway easily on petrol
the range of lpg cars is also great since you can fit upto 80lts tank in bigger cars.
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Still doesn't make a very convincing argument in favor of LPG. For example, a diesel like the Logan & Dzire would easily give 17 - 18 kpl on the Lonavla stretch. Thus working out cheaper @ about Rs. 2 / km.
Hi there !
Hardly an argument in favor of LPG against diesel. LPG inspite of the petrol like performance of car at a reduced cost per kilometers , still has suspect long term reliability. Every 6000/7000 km it needs a little tinkering to regain the drop in performance. Plugs & wires have to be changed at 7500 km. Air filter needs frequent replacement too though thats not much of a cost. Point is the good performance of a LPG converted vehicle does not remain so for a substantial amount of time without needing attention and some expense.
In that case it is just not as reliable as petrol / diesel.
But the topic is still whether its worth it at the reduced price?

But since we have already converted to LPG the reduced pricing means relief. Personally if you ask me ,given the budget to upgrade ,i ll take a diesel anyday.

I am not advocating the retrofitting.
But look at it this way , it still gives an option to people who own petrol vehicles, who dont drive enough to upgrade to diesel but still drive enough for the high petrol cost to hurt!
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