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Old 19th September 2013, 01:11   #61
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Got it done from a roadside guy in Sector 16 noida. However, if you are in New Delhi try and get Riaz in khan market. Which car? How old? What are the symptoms?
It's a 2002 Zen lx, with a retrofitted Sanden compressor (original was Delphi). The alignment is a little off and is adversely affecting the belt.
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It's a 2002 Zen lx, with a retrofitted Sanden compressor (original was Delphi). The alignment is a little off and is adversely affecting the belt.
You need an AC specialist. I recommend Sai service in Noida sector 16. This is a big famous AC fitting shop in the main auto market. Don't have their number though
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It's a 2002 Zen lx, with a retrofitted Sanden compressor (original was Delphi). The alignment is a little off and is adversely affecting the belt.
Do not ignore the issue since it could cause several issues and breakdown.

I would recommend Mr. Vivek Malhotra of Breezeways Automotive at Lodhi Road DDA double storey market. His cell phone number is:+91-9810617007.

His boys did an excellent job on a friend's Scorpio recently.
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I have an Aveo that reads 85k on the odo. Couple of days back I parked my car after driving for about 20 kms and during that time the AC was working pretty well. But after starting the car again the AC was not cooling as much as it should cool. So that afternoon itself I took the car to my road side mechanic who diagnosed the problem as gas not being full and filled it up again. The AC after that started to cool as it should.

Yesterday again after driving for about 30 kms or so with the AC working fine when I parked my car for an hour and restarted it the AC did not work as well as it should. And this morning again the AC was not working well.

Lately the humming sound when the AC turns on has become very loud and has become more of a soft grrrrrrrrrrr kind of a sound. The sound goes when the AC is turned off. Also note that lately my car has been doing a lot of running on dusty to very dusty tracks (but the AC is always off on dusty tracks)

How should I go about solving the problem.

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Yesterday again after driving for about 30 kms or so with the AC working fine when I parked my car for an hour and restarted it the AC did not work as well as it should. And this morning again the AC was not working well.

Lately the humming sound when the AC turns on has become very loud and has become more of a soft grrrrrrrrrrr kind of a sound. The sound goes when the AC is turned off. Also note that lately my car has been doing a lot of running on dusty to very dusty tracks (but the AC is always off on dusty tracks)
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Hey Deky,

I think the gas pipeline has developed a leak somewhere. And, no wonder that if you go to the mechanic again, and he again diagnoses it as low gas in the system. Since, the same refrigerant acts like a lubricant too for the system, you are hearing the noise. Yes, there is some amount of synthetic compressor oil too, but that actually travels along with the refrigerant.

Was the AC ever modified to take R134a in place of R12?

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Lately the humming sound when the AC turns on has become very loud and has become more of a soft grrrrrrrrrrr kind of a sound. The sound goes when the AC is turned off. Also note that lately my car has been doing a lot of running on dusty to very dusty tracks (but the AC is always off on dusty tracks)

Maybe it is due to gas leakage. Take the car to AC mechanic and ask for a "leak test". They will disconnect the tubing and run normal gas at high pressure through condenser and all tubes.

Should not cost more than 500 Rs. Solution would be based on the leak found in this test.

In Mumbai this is usually due to corrosion in tubes or condenser. Should not be an issue in Jaipur though.
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Thank you guys!!!

I just came back from the mechanic who filled the gas. Now he is saying that the some part seems to have broken inside the compressor hence the compressor is not pumping properly.

It seems that the mechanic is trying hit and trial method. But compressor change is a costly affair.

I am planning to go to another AC mechanic and get it checked. Should I still get the gas leaking checked? What are the other options I have?

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I am planning to go to another AC mechanic and get it checked. Should I still get the gas leaking checked? What are the other options I have?

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Do you know of competent AC repair guys in the area? If yes, then go to them. Any particular reason that you are overlooking the ASC? They have the personnel and infrastructure to locate and repair the problem.
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Do you know of competent AC repair guys in the area? If yes, then go to them. Any particular reason that you are overlooking the ASC? They have the personnel and infrastructure to locate and repair the problem.
I was not going to the ASC because i wanted to get the problem diagnosed first and then see if it is worth going to them as the charges are always higher.

Anyway the problem has been diagnosed as the compressor problem. The compressor does not seem to be pumping properly. I called the ASC and they are asking for 40k just for the compressor only. Consumables and labour will be extra.

My trusted AC mechanic is asking for 12.5k for the complete job. The compressor wont have any gaurantee tho.

Seeing the price difference is it ok to get it done from outside?
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Hi guys, I have an 2003 OHC that I bought second hand at 1,5L on the odo. Since the car was purchased in the winters, I did not get a chance to test out the aircon and curse my stars that I did not visit a local AC guy. Even though I got the car's engine extensively tested and checked.

Anyway, the car's AC used to cool very mildly on idle and a bit more when I used to accelerate; but soon it completely stopped. Now it is completely ineffective and does not work at all. I went to a couple of repair shops and they all said the AC' compressor is extremely weak and it will have to be replaced. They have quoted an expense of approx 17k for a Sanden compressor, fitting charges and a few other components required. The last I checked at Kashmere Gate from the Sanden authorised store, it was for 13,xxx/-.

I have been to quite a few reputed AC mechanics around the city, such as Quick AC in Lajpat Nagar, Auto Cool in Ajit Arcade and a few others in Meharchand Market and Okhla, they all have diagnosed the same problem, i.e. the Compressor "weakness" and the only recommended solution is a change of compressor.

I wanted to know if there are any competent and tested AC mechanics out there who can do a credible compressor change job? Also, is it better to buy the parts yourself or get the parts + service done from the workshop?

Any help would be much appreciated!
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the only recommended solution is a change of compressor.
Try to find a second hand ac compressor for your car.
My friend faced a similar situation when he bought a used Pajero, naturally the price quoted by the service center for the replacement was enough to buy another small car. We then approached an independent AC mech, he suggested a used compressor from a qualis would fit his Pajero. The job was done in a matter of hours after we gave him the used compressor and it was done at a fraction of the cost quoted by the service center.
In your case a few enquiries at your local garage about the availability of used parts and a days field trip will solve your car's issue. But, be sure to ask your AC mech for pointers to find a good compressor.
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So I went to the AC chap Manjeet of Cooldays as recommended here on the forum by some of the fellow members. He checked out the aircon and zeroed down on the compressor to a certainty of 99%.

He gave me a budget of 22,xxx/- for a chance of the Compressor, Valve expansion and drier (?) including the service charges. I decided to go to Kashmere Gate instead and get the prices for the components. I am saving a good 5k if I source the components myself! That is a huge difference.

Though I have a question, he is charging some 2,200/- for the Gas and he was using a cylinder with Fluron written on it for the purpose. I also saw some R134A cans in the shops at Kashmere Gate. Is it better to get the refrigerant gas from the shop itself or to buy those cans?
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Try to find a second hand ac compressor for your car.
My friend faced a similar situation when he bought a used Pajero, naturally the price quoted by the service center for the replacement was enough to buy another small car. We then approached an independent AC mech, he suggested a used compressor from a qualis would fit his Pajero. The job was done in a matter of hours after we gave him the used compressor and it was done at a fraction of the cost quoted by the service center.
In your case a few enquiries at your local garage about the availability of used parts and a days field trip will solve your car's issue. But, be sure to ask your AC mech for pointers to find a good compressor.
I tried asking the last guy for a used compressor, he said he had one in mind and it'd cost me some 8k (compared to 12.8k for a new compressor) but he took no gurantee of it. He just said it'll work and that's about it and there's no saying if it'll work in the coming months. Only if I could find a used compressor in a good condition, I'd jump at that opportunity!
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So I went to the AC chap Manjeet of Cooldays as recommended here on the forum by some of the fellow members. He checked out the aircon and zeroed down on the compressor to a certainty of 99%.

He gave me a budget of 22,xxx/- for a chance of the Compressor, Valve expansion and drier (?) including the service charges. I decided to go to Kashmere Gate instead and get the prices for the components. I am saving a good 5k if I source the components myself! That is a huge difference.

Though I have a question, he is charging some 2,200/- for the Gas and he was using a cylinder with Fluron written on it for the purpose. I also saw some R134A cans in the shops at Kashmere Gate. Is it better to get the refrigerant gas from the shop itself or to buy those cans?

I tried asking the last guy for a used compressor, he said he had one in mind and it'd cost me some 8k (compared to 12.8k for a new compressor) but he took no gurantee of it. He just said it'll work and that's about it and there's no saying if it'll work in the coming months. Only if I could find a used compressor in a good condition, I'd jump at that opportunity!
I am in a similar situation. Need to get compressor for swift. Did you happen to source parts form kashmere gate ? Any recommended shop you researched and brand/cost incurred?
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I tried asking the last guy for a used compressor, he said he had one in mind and it'd cost me some 8k (compared to 12.8k for a new compressor) but he took no gurantee of it. He just said it'll work and that's about it and there's no saying if it'll work in the coming months. Only if I could find a used compressor in a good condition, I'd jump at that opportunity!
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I am in a similar situation. Need to get compressor for swift. Did you happen to source parts form kashmere gate ? Any recommended shop you researched and brand/cost incurred?
You can try at this (Friendly Neighbourhood Garage - Shanoo & Irfan, Unique Automobiles (Delhi))shop - he sells sanden compressors and does the full fitment.
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It's a 2002 Zen lx, with a retrofitted Sanden compressor (original was Delphi). The alignment is a little off and is adversely affecting the belt.
Bumping up an old post here. Did you get the compressor checked? How is it behaving now? I too have a 2001 MPFI Zen. The ac of the old Zen were known to be weak and mine's no different - it barely cools now. Showed it to an ac specialist and he said that the compressor is weak and will have to be replaced. How much did retrofitting the Sanden Compressor cost you? Which components other than the compressor were changed? Total damage? Any problems after the retrofit? I too am looking at retrofitting a >70cc Sanden as the original compressor (70cc Subros IIRC) was ineffective. Inputs would be helpful here.

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