Problem: Ford Ikon vibrating (almost shaking) when Idle. - Team-BHP

Eddy · 6th May 2008, 12:28

Guys,

Faced this problem in my Ikon flair yesterday. The car is vibrating like crazy when idle. There is a hint of noise but I am unable to locate the source. The RPM is stable at around 800-900.

I did not drive it for long once the problem started but the vibrations continued when in motion. They are really scary when the car is stationary. What could be the problem guys ?

I really would not like to take the car to Ford so can anyone suggest a good mechanic outside for such kind of problems ?

Its done 48K in little less than 4 yrs.

Jaggu · 6th May 2008, 12:31

Check plugs and wires first then blocked injector, fuel return cannister/pipes.

Eddy · 6th May 2008, 12:41

Hmm... are you implying that it could be due to bad fuel ?

n_aditya · 6th May 2008, 12:50

Are the vibrations from the engine? Check the engine mounts for wear and have them replaced if worn out.

Jaggu · 6th May 2008, 13:03

How many kms have the car run? and how is the usage, regular or sparingly used?

Eddy · 6th May 2008, 13:05

Jaagu: Its done around 48 k in little less than 4 years. Used pretty regularly for daily commutes to office etc by my brother and dad.

rkbharat · 6th May 2008, 13:08

Most likely its one on the Engine mount gone or loose

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

Guys,

Faced this problem in my Ikon flair yesterday. The car is vibrating like crazy when idle. There is a hint of noise but I am unable to locate the source. The RPM is stable at around 800-900.

I did not drive it for long once the problem started but the vibrations continued when in motion. They are really scary when the car is stationary. What could be the problem guys ?

I really would not like to take the car to Ford so can anyone suggest a good mechanic outside for such kind of problems ?

Its done 48K in little less than 4 yrs.

jkdas · 6th May 2008, 13:09

Engine mount as aditya said? Was there a change in fuel ?

Eddy · 6th May 2008, 13:13

Engine mounts i will get checked.

@JK: I doubt if my brother would have filled her up from a new place but will have to confirm that.

How much does changing engine mounts cost ? <scared.... have started hallucinating about the credit card bill already>

Edit: RK: Know of a good mechanic who can replace the mounts if needed ?

rkbharat · 6th May 2008, 13:25

Engine mounts are not very costly parts, should be under 1000 Rs. I suggest you get it done at Ford Service Center. In case they cry of parts not available then get it done from any local service center.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

How much does changing engine mounts cost ? <scared.... have started hallucinating about the credit card bill already>

Edit: RK: Know of a good mechanic who can replace the mounts if needed ?

DirtyDan · 6th May 2008, 13:36

Does the vibe seem to coincide with the firing of the cylinders/pistons or is it unrelated?

Here is some other possibilities besides engine mounts.

1. Alternator bearing going bad
2. Water pump going bad
3. Bad spark plug(s)
4. Bad ignition wire(s)
5. Bad coil (does this thing have them???)
6. Vacuum leak in a hose
7. Bad ECU or sensor
8. Blocked (dirty) air filter

Unfortunately engines vibrate for a great many reasons. It's hard to say what it might be from the little info you have given us. Are there other symptoms also? Suggest you check your belts, your cooling level, your charging system. A good mechanic will do all this.

Please give us a follow up post and let us arm chair twits know what it turns out to be, 'ay?

Eddy · 6th May 2008, 13:57

Thats a comprehensive list there Dan, though you have scared me

I am still contemplating whether to go to Ford or somewhere outside. Ford inevitably will charge thrice or four times compared to some decent mechanic outside.
Lets see.

Jaggu · 6th May 2008, 16:28

Take it to the dealer and get it checked, i doubt its engine mounts for a 48k car, that part is one of the strong point in the iKON.

Remember fuel evaporator/cannister, this is something which everybody misses and i for one had a bad issue with dealer coz of this. If its blocked replace it, cost some 1500 bucks.

Read more about it here http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ugh-cough.html (Cough cough!)

Ford Rocam · 6th May 2008, 22:06

Could be misfiring on one of the cylinder or incomplete combustion, reasons could be anything
1) Coils
2) Plugs/wires
3)clogged injector

Eddy · 6th May 2008, 22:27

Now that I think about it, I dont think my frugal brother has been feeding her well. Most of the time, there in only enough fuel left in the tank to take her to the next petrol bunk; only to be filled with MAX 500 bucks worth of petrol.
Can this cause injector problems ? Will it be a sudden problem ?

I just want to know all possibilities before I take her to robbers called Harpreet Ford. :(

6th May 2008, 12:28	#1 (permalink)
Eddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 851	Problem: Ford Ikon vibrating (almost shaking) when Idle. Guys, Faced this problem in my Ikon flair yesterday. The car is vibrating like crazy when idle. There is a hint of noise but I am unable to locate the source. The RPM is stable at around 800-900. I did not drive it for long once the problem started but the vibrations continued when in motion. They are really scary when the car is stationary. What could be the problem guys ? I really would not like to take the car to Ford so can anyone suggest a good mechanic outside for such kind of problems ? Its done 48K in little less than 4 yrs. __________________ Car is no longer a luxury; parking space is.

6th May 2008, 12:31	#2 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,626	Check plugs and wires first then blocked injector, fuel return cannister/pipes. __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

6th May 2008, 12:41	#3 (permalink)
Eddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 851	Hmm... are you implying that it could be due to bad fuel ? __________________ Car is no longer a luxury; parking space is.

6th May 2008, 13:03	#5 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,626	How many kms have the car run? and how is the usage, regular or sparingly used? __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

6th May 2008, 13:05	#6 (permalink)
Eddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 851	Jaagu: Its done around 48 k in little less than 4 years. Used pretty regularly for daily commutes to office etc by my brother and dad. __________________ Car is no longer a luxury; parking space is.

6th May 2008, 12:50	#4 (permalink)
n_aditya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Currently at Chennai. Originally from Blore. Posts: 1,679	Are the vibrations from the engine? Check the engine mounts for wear and have them replaced if worn out.

6th May 2008, 13:09	#8 (permalink)
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapuram Posts: 5,226 View My Garage	Engine mount as aditya said? Was there a change in fuel ? __________________ "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."

6th May 2008, 13:13	#9 (permalink)
Eddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 851	Engine mounts i will get checked. @JK: I doubt if my brother would have filled her up from a new place but will have to confirm that. How much does changing engine mounts cost ? <scared.... have started hallucinating about the credit card bill already> Edit: RK: Know of a good mechanic who can replace the mounts if needed ? __________________ Car is no longer a luxury; parking space is.

6th May 2008, 13:36	#11 (permalink)
DirtyDan BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dharamsala Posts: 594	Need more information Does the vibe seem to coincide with the firing of the cylinders/pistons or is it unrelated? Here is some other possibilities besides engine mounts. 1. Alternator bearing going bad 2. Water pump going bad 3. Bad spark plug(s) 4. Bad ignition wire(s) 5. Bad coil (does this thing have them???) 6. Vacuum leak in a hose 7. Bad ECU or sensor 8. Blocked (dirty) air filter Unfortunately engines vibrate for a great many reasons. It's hard to say what it might be from the little info you have given us. Are there other symptoms also? Suggest you check your belts, your cooling level, your charging system. A good mechanic will do all this. Please give us a follow up post and let us arm chair twits know what it turns out to be, 'ay? __________________ The only tyrant I accept in this world is the still voice within. -Gandhi

6th May 2008, 13:57	#12 (permalink)
Eddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 851	Thats a comprehensive list there Dan, though you have scared me I am still contemplating whether to go to Ford or somewhere outside. Ford inevitably will charge thrice or four times compared to some decent mechanic outside. Lets see. __________________ Car is no longer a luxury; parking space is.

6th May 2008, 16:28	#13 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,626	Take it to the dealer and get it checked, i doubt its engine mounts for a 48k car, that part is one of the strong point in the iKON. Remember fuel evaporator/cannister, this is something which everybody misses and i for one had a bad issue with dealer coz of this. If its blocked replace it, cost some 1500 bucks. Read more about it here http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ugh-cough.html (Cough cough!) __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

6th May 2008, 22:06	#14 (permalink)
Ford Rocam Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 901 View My Garage	Could be misfiring on one of the cylinder or incomplete combustion, reasons could be anything 1) Coils 2) Plugs/wires 3)clogged injector __________________ Cheap and reliable wont be fast, cheap and fast wont be reliable, reliable and fast wont be cheap.

6th May 2008, 22:27	#15 (permalink)
Eddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 851	Now that I think about it, I dont think my frugal brother has been feeding her well. Most of the time, there in only enough fuel left in the tank to take her to the next petrol bunk; only to be filled with MAX 500 bucks worth of petrol. Can this cause injector problems ? Will it be a sudden problem ? I just want to know all possibilities before I take her to robbers called Harpreet Ford. :( __________________ Car is no longer a luxury; parking space is.

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