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Old 14th January 2009, 16:19   #91
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speaking of cold starts,

shouldn't the engine be allowed to idle for 10-20 secs ? the oil probably wouldn't be well circulated to all the parts and would be cold too (thus more viscous and would spread to lesser parts)
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Old 14th January 2009, 20:05   #92
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I generally start the car without any load on battery (ICE, lights and A/C off). Recently developed the habit of depressing clutch while starting. Based on mood let it idle for the duration of a smoke or 10.20 secs max. I do feel the engine is rough for longer if not idled for a little bit. Fiat recommends driving away immediately with minimal acceleration during first few KMs after a cold start, I try not to accelerate much for first couple of minutes of driving. Aside from this it does not seem reversing the car is good upon cold start, so I park generally in a position to be able to drive away at next start.

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Old 14th January 2009, 20:29   #93
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speaking of cold starts,
shouldn't the engine be allowed to idle for 10-20 secs ?
Yes, it should be done.

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Aside from this it does not seem reversing the car is good upon cold start, so I park generally in a position to be able to drive away at next start.
I wonder why you say that!
Any particular reason that led you to this belief?
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This is the sequence I follow:
Firstly Im happy to see the car is there. So I walk around to see if all the aggregates are intact.
SO I smile and say good morning or whatever time of the day it is.
Then I jump in look around inside the car(around 5 seconds)
Then put the key in the hole.
Depress the clutch and start the car.(picked this up from the advice on tbhp)
Then I smile again happy that the chariot is working.
Let it idle for a while i RESET my brain to DRIVE mode(usually an automatic function that ive mentioned) while im checking the rearview mirrors.
Then I drive off.
This is standard procedure regardless of the vehicle im driving.
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Old 14th January 2009, 21:54   #95
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Even in my Indigo's manual, the starting procedure recommends depressing the clutch before cranking the engine. This is to reduce the load on the engine of the transmission. I believe depressing the clutch is more relevant in the case of diesel engines because of heavier moving parts and engine construction in general - hence less load on the starter motor and the battery.
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I believe depressing the clutch is more relevant in the case of diesel engines because of heavier moving parts and engine construction in general - hence less load on the starter motor and the battery.
jessie007,

This case stands true for even petrol vehicles. Disengaging (pressing the clutch with your foot) disconnects the moving parts of the transmission from the engine, in turn lowering the load on both the engine and also the starter motor. Doing this will also increase your battery's life as well.

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people .. may i suggest another check...one very usefull especially when driving someone else's car... as you roll forward in 1st.. take ur foot off the accelerator .. gently apply brakes ..gives you a feel of the brakes and more importantly you know they are working... once you are ok with the brake test.. foot off the brake and rev away the way you normally do... will slow you just abt 10 secs but one day save you a nasty bill !!

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.. gently apply brakes ..gives you a feel of the brakes and more importantly you know they are working...... will slow you just abt 10 secs but one day save you a nasty bill !!
LOL, Darth, I hope this was not learnt the hard way!
Very valid point and I fully support this practice.
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I don't know if its already mentioned in this thread but would like to point out another important point,when the engine is on and the headlights are on(at night obviously)there are possibilities where the engine may switch off automatically either because it was not in gear or whatever...It is always recommended that the lights be switched off first and then the engine should be switched on,many of us know this but i have seen many people who don't switch off their lights and directly start the engine.
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I usually do it this way. Change it to neutral and start the engine, idle it for 10 seconds and change the gear and go away. From the most of the post is shows that depress the clutch in the gear itself and drive away.

I am confused of which way is the best ?
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This case stands true for even petrol vehicles. Disengaging (pressing the clutch with your foot) disconnects the moving parts of the transmission from the engine, in turn lowering the load on both the engine and also the starter motor. Doing this will also increase your battery's life as well

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I didn't make the comment exclusively for diesel engined vehicles, but said that is is "MORE RELEVANT", as the parts and the engine construction of diesel engines are heavier.

Also, I don't know if manual of petrol cars recommend depressing the clutch before starting for the purpose of reducing load. I know it is the case in the Elantra as my uncle owns one - but this I believe is more to do as a safety feature (as the car doesn’t start without pressing the clutch) to prevent accidental starting in gear rather than intended to reduce the load on the engine. Though it does serve the purpose or reducing load as well.

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7 Pages of bickering on how to start a car?

Remember to wait for your engine OIL to warm up to around 140*F before you floor it. I've noticed that the coolant will hit 200*F fairly quickly with the oil temp still well below 100*F! Try not to redline the motor for a good 5 minutes after startup.
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well my type is also the same in starting the car as you people have:
>depress the clutch( i've got into this habbit since i've been driving since last 10 years)
>wait for 10-20 seconds listen to the engine humming and then turn on ac, adjust my mirrors
>put on some good music(depending on my mood)
and drive off!
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7 Pages of bickering on how to start a car?
LOL!

One thing more thing, people in this part of the world dont really translate miles x Kms or deg F into deg C on the fly. The metric system prevails.

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Yes, it should be done.



I wonder why you say that!
Any particular reason that led you to this belief?
I can not recall where I gathered the info, probably from a forum or article. It does claim stress on engine is more while reversing immediately upon cold start.
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