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Old 9th April 2010, 13:05   #1981
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@Owners with AC vent issue

My beast too suffered this. It was diagnosed as a "missing relay" in the circuit to operate the motor to control vent opening. My truck came from factory sans this relay. I was charged ~300/- to replace this and ever since beast is quite air-tight. Later, TML reversed the charge after some persuasion. Details in my ownership thread. Investigate this angle too.


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In my case the vent works...does not seal properly...I am unable to locate this vent...
The plastic grill at the bottom of the windsheild, just at the base of bonnet cover is the inlet source for outside air into the cabin. This plastic grill is attached to the bonnet body with some "velcro" type thingy and few plastic studs. Try to pull this grill off- you will see the mechanism how air is sucked in. Then try your ideas of putting some filter material. I think, if you do not use "external air" mode then completely blocking off these grills would do no harm. You may need some kind of stool to prop yourself up as Safari is very wide and you won't be able to reach the center of the bonnet.

I have done this in wagon-r multiple times to clean up tree leaves, birds feathers etc that gets trapped behind this air inlet grill.

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Old 9th April 2010, 13:06   #1982
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In my case the vent works, they can even see it moving. However, the foam around the vent regularly goes for a toss.
The adhesive used is of poor quality. If the foam does not seal properly you will get dust inside.

I am unable to locate this vent. If I can I will stick an M800 air filter over it with superglue
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Old 9th April 2010, 13:38   #1983
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@Owners with AC vent issue

I think, if you do not use "external air" mode then completely blocking off these grills would do no harm. -BJ
I never thought of this. Maybe its a good idea to completely seal off that vent.... especially the recirculation mode is ON almost 100% of the time.
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But I am unable to find the point in the firewall where I can put the "seal".
Anybody who can figure it out please post pics?
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Have same issue of air fresh air when in recirculating mode.

And unlike BJ, but like TSK, the vent is working. Can hear the motor working when activated, but still outside smell flows into the cabin.

Will try the complete sealing way. I had once removed that plastic grill from just one side to clear up dried flowers.
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Default Faulty Instrument Cluster

I have been having an unique problem ever since I got my Beast. I always felt that I was going at a slower speed when the instrument cluster stated a much higher speed. This went on for 2 years. Each time I bought it up with the TASS guys, they told me that since I had upgraded from a much lighter vehicle (Esteem) I feel it, when its actually not. Heavy vehicle gives you a feel of low speed. Although I buy this logic but was not sure as far as my Beast was. I felt something was wrong. I even did 165 kmph on my way to Chandigarh. The problem was not the 165 kmph but the fact an Alto was keeping me company.

Someone in this thread told me to check with a GPS system. I got mine 2 months back. Guess what? There was a big difference between what was shown on the vehicles panel and the GPS. While the vehicle panel showed 130 kmph the GPS showed it to be 95 kmph. The higher the speed the bigger the difference.

Showed the demo to the Autolink guys and they were finally convinced. Without much ado they replaced it free of cost. The cost of the entire instrument panel was appox. 7400/-.
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LOL, did the error also get reflected in the odometer. in that case your reported FE would have been 50% more than actual FE.
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CR,

With such a huge difference (130kmph vs 90kmph), the staff should have noticed during test drive! They and their "its is normal" excuse it reaching heights!

Didn't the gear change VS speed of vehicle also bring this anomaly to their notice?

Well, one sure thing is that you would have NEVER been caught for over-speeding!
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Wow, amazing stuff! My difference between Speedo & GPS is 7 kmph.

This brings me to the next point - looks like all your service intervals have gone haywire & I wonder how much the vehicle has actually clocked! As Tanveer says, I'm sure there was an error in the odo as well?
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The mileage that I was getting was mind boggling - 15.4 kmpl (with A/C).

While everyone in this thread was talking about an average of 12 kmpl.

As far as the odo is concerned, God knows.

What was even more amazing I was going about town telling everyone the mileage my Safari was giving.

Now I do not know what to say. I guess I shall keep quite about it.

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Have same issue of air fresh air when in recirculating mode.

And unlike BJ, but like TSK, the vent is working. Can hear the motor working when activated, but still outside smell flows into the cabin.

Will try the complete sealing way. I had once removed that plastic grill from just one side to clear up dried flowers.
Count me in for this... Even I have similar problem. The vent gets closed properly. But still outside smell comes in when in re-circulation mode. This phenomena happens in all cars i guess (My maruti and other cars I have driven so far, including some in USA get slight outside smell), but the intensity of smell is noticeably more in Safari. Got it checked by TASS as well. They said they opened the whole mechanism cleaned it and refitted it properly. The smell has reduced now, but still fairly noticeable. I guess we at TBhp need to find a solution ourselves.
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This phenomena happens in all cars i guess (My maruti and other cars I have driven so far, including some in USA get slight outside smell), but the intensity of smell is noticeably more in Safari. Got it checked by TASS as well.
Would love to agree with you on this but I cant.
All the Toyota's and the Nissans I have driven are quite good in isolating outside odours when the vent is shut. Even a friends Lancer i drove was quite good in this regard.
In the Safari I think its the door beading s that are the culprits. There is a leak somewhere in the beadings, in the way they fit and seal the cabin. If you ask someone else to drive and sit in the back seat and move your hands along the doors, you can feel some air coming in from outside in some places. Atleast I could feel it in mY Safari. I havent checked the Dicky door yet, but im sure there must be some air leaking from there too.
Please do check and provide feedback from your respective vehicles.

As for the TASS, they have proved their incompetence in diagnosing pretty much everything. All they know is how to replace parts, since there is a TML warranty, and post warranty, you pay for it.

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All Gurus,
I have given my vehicle to TASS as the vehicle was steering towards left when apply brake and tyre alignement is out, after lot of testing they finally agreed that alignement is out. But they are telling me that i will have to pay for alignement. They will give bck my vehicle on Friday, I just wanted to know that i have covered 13,500 kms in six months and my Third Service is due. So do i need to pay for alignement also.
There were few other isues also like Heavy clutch, Brake drum noise, Idling fluctuation and so on. The list is long so i dont want to waste your time.
Early Help will be appreciated.

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Shubendra,
To the best of my knowledge.. they fix your alignment for free within the first 10k kms and after that you have to pay for it.
All the other issues you mention should be diagnosed for free and if parts replacement is required should be replaced under warranty. You may have to pay for brake pads and other rubber consumables. .. it will be best known after diagnosis. You may consider taking it up with customer care if you feel that you are being paid for what is not deserved.

How come your 3rd service is due in just 13.5k kms..?? 3rd service comes up at 45k kms.

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How come your 3rd service is due in just 13.5k kms..?? 3rd service comes up at 45k kms.
For Safari 2.2, the third service would be at 30K.

1st - 5K
2nd- 15K
3rd - 30K
4th - 45K
5th - 60K (last free service)
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