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Old 7th January 2011, 15:38   #2956
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Can one of you guys who has this as a frequent problem do me a favour and switch to Shell Diesel just for some further diagnostic, I know its expensive but just wait till near empty and fill in 30ltrs of Shell normal diesel and report back here after 100kms of run.
Filled up 30ltrs of Shell normal diesel yesterday (God, it is Rs.50/ltr compared to Rs.40 in Hosur) on near empty tank.. Immediate noticed Safari was a little smoother than usual. But did notice the gasping issue occasionally, and the front bonnet kitch-kitch-kirr noise as usual. Overall not much change because of Shell diesel in my Safari...
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1. In that case it should be an easy fix
2. this does not come at full lock. This khat khat sound comes while turning steering, even when wheels are currently not at full lock position
3. Any solution to this?
It usually goes away within 15k run, but I know its a long one, temporarily slight grinding of the pads will help.

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Filled up 30ltrs of Shell normal diesel yesterday (God, it is Rs.50/ltr compared to Rs.40 in Hosur) on near empty tank.. Immediate noticed Safari was a little smoother than usual. But did notice the gasping issue occasionally, and the front bonnet kitch-kitch-kirr noise as usual. Overall not much change because of Shell diesel in my Safari...
Please run for another 100-150 kms and give your feedback.
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@4x4addict, yes I am getting those from a trusted shop and thank you for the concern .

Please find the pics below, kindly let me know if you find any difference from the OEM.
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If this is true, SAFARI is no more heavy on maintenance.
I am getting the same brake pad kit here at Yelahanka for 1350/-, now I just need to ensure that some Tata A.S.C fit it for me and make an entry into their computers, my guy at Prerana O.M.R declined to do it, need help on this guys.
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Default Brake Pads should not affect wty

@Hari, why should a brake pad replacement affect wty ? Why should it even be reflected in the service history ? Even if done in the T.A.S.S, the pads will be replaced only if worn out. Not a time-bound replacement like for engine oils.

The life of the pads would depend on usage. If you were to do only highway drives, your pads would last may be twice as long if driven only in city.

Why dont you just get them replaced outisde and be done with it ?
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agree, you should get it replaced from outside. No need to mention anywhere about this change. Your warranty will be intact
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My Safari's back door had been rattling softly for a while now, and I found that by removing the spare wheel completely, the rattling stopped. Now I've kept the spare wheel in between the jumpseats for now, and plan to leave it like that though it doesn't look very good outside without the spare wheel. Also the 3 bolts projecting out dont look very safe either.

When I went to KHT last week for getting the ipod cable fixed, I told them about this rattling, but they were like we'll see when you bring in for next service, which is some 8000kms away.

Is there any other solution I can try myself for the door rattling issue?

By the way, got the ipod cable attached to rear of HU and routed into glovebox, but now I think keeping an ipod permanently in the glove box is not a good idea because of the heat that could build up inside the car when parked in sun.
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My Safari's back door had been rattling softly for a while now, and I found that by removing the spare wheel completely, the rattling stopped. Now I've kept the spare wheel in between the jumpseats for now, and plan to leave it like that though it doesn't look very good outside without the spare wheel. Also the 3 bolts projecting out dont look very safe either.

When I went to KHT last week for getting the ipod cable fixed, I told them about this rattling, but they were like we'll see when you bring in for next service, which is some 8000kms away.

Is there any other solution I can try myself for the door rattling issue?

By the way, got the ipod cable attached to rear of HU and routed into glovebox, but now I think keeping an ipod permanently in the glove box is not a good idea because of the heat that could build up inside the car when parked in sun.
i guess there is a solution, last week when i visited the concord(Hosur), they said that there is a better option to avoid the rattling of the door(if the door is a box type), the smoothness of the door will be like a Hatchback(if the door is closed). it will cost around 2500 rs.

it will cost even lesser if the model is the latest one.

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Yes Shantanu, we are talking about the same noise from front right side (driver side) of bonent that shows up now and then, when up/down shifting the moment you press clutch.
Yes, very inconsistent one. The power lag also shows up during this time mostly, but I've heard this noise without powerlag, so think both are not related/could be.



rajismine, yes many people here have reported that this is the EGR sound.. During second service last week, I was able to reproduce this sound to the SA at Concord Hosur Road, but he said it is normal and is from turbocharger.. But same day there was another BSIII Safari which had a new turbocharger fitted and that also had the same sound even after new turbocharger was fitted.

More likely that it is from EGR. I was under impression this issue is only in BSIV models, but corrected myself after hearing it on the BSIII one also last week.
I guess its an EGR sould, i had the same problem and once the EGR was replaced the sound vanished.

i guess you should have a power lag problem also.

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i guess there is a solution, last week when i visited the concord(Hosur), they said that there is a better option to avoid the rattling of the door(if the door is a box type), the smoothness of the door will be like a Hatchback(if the door is closed). it will cost around 2500 rs.

it will cost even lesser if the model is the latest one.

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2500 the proper solution is 600 Rs in labor and 200Rs in parts ,
Talk to Tulasiram at Concord Hosur road and ask for Grande Dove tail joint fitting. Part numbers and photos are in this very thread.
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Old 10th January 2011, 17:38   #2964
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2500 the proper solution is 600 Rs in labor and 200Rs in parts ,
Talk to Tulasiram at Concord Hosur road and ask for Grande Dove tail joint fitting. Part numbers and photos are in this very thread.
Hi Amit,

looked at this reply from you and immediately started searching for this part and pictures...Looks OK but I have different experience on it...

My Safari always came with this Dove Joint...Yes form the factory itself..the difference was that the part that fits to the door was Plastic/teflon and the part on the body was metal...

My safari used to get the door rattles every 15 days...finally during one service the Mallik Cars guys here removed it completely (never gave me the part back). They never told me that they had removed it until my next vist to them...which was not for this...

They told me that this joint itself is the reason for the rattles....

All in all...my safari rear door never rattled again in last 2 years....

But yes the alignment is a little gone now and the door has levelled down a little...but worth it I guess....

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I am getting the same brake pad kit here at Yelahanka for 1350/-, now I just need to ensure that some Tata A.S.C fit it for me and make an entry into their computers, my guy at Prerana O.M.R declined to do it, need help on this guys.
Cant you take it to some local mechanic and get it done? I lucky have a guy who dont Tata cars more.

I was asked to change rotors too along with the second set of front brake pads as I had a metallic shrill sound when I braked (now not its not there) at 9k~!

Should I?
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Hi Amit,

looked at this reply from you and immediately started searching for this part and pictures...Looks OK but I have different experience on it...

My Safari always came with this Dove Joint...Yes form the factory itself..the difference was that the part that fits to the door was Plastic/teflon and the part on the body was metal...
Thats really strange , I have never seen this kind of Dove tail joint in any Safari be it 2.2 VTT Dicor or 3.0 Dicor or TCIC. Actually I looked for it in all Safari's in Concord yard.

Concord Motors once provided me a white 4X4 3.0 Dicor as replacement vehicle and I checked that as well.

Any way after Dovetail I have done several rough drives and rattling did not surface for last 18K km. There is of-course a price to pay that gate needs to be slammed little harder to lock.
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Ok guys, need some help regarding following issues :

1. The voltage in my safari increases sometimes for 5 secs and Check Engine apprears and then goes off. whats wrong here? The Alternator or some other part and the cost please ??

2. The gears are very tight specially in first 10 kms in december month ?? shall i get gear oil changed ???

3. cost of replacing 1 power window motor ????

My safari is 4.5 yrs old now and out of EW and barely used as i am out of country so dont wanna spend a bomb.

so please advise, thanks in advance
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I have been using system D and IOC fuel from day1.My vehicle has touched 25K kms.I have not faced any gasping issues though i have noticed the sound during clutch release.
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Please run for another 100-150 kms and give your feedback.
The 30 ltrs Shell Diesel are over now and I filled with IOC Diesel today. The gasping issue frequency seems to have come down considerably with Shell Diesel, though it does show up occasionally, but not as often as used to before I used Shell.

I dont know if it is just an illusion, but the fact is last few days I have even come to forget about the issue since it didn't show up frequently.

Let me report back in few days after having returned to IOC Diesel.
Safari is at 7200kms now.
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Ok guys, need some help regarding following issues :

1. The voltage in my safari increases sometimes for 5 secs and Check Engine apprears and then goes off. whats wrong here? The Alternator or some other part and the cost please ??

2. The gears are very tight specially in first 10 kms in december month ?? shall i get gear oil changed ???

3. cost of replacing 1 power window motor ????

My safari is 4.5 yrs old now and out of EW and barely used as i am out of country so dont wanna spend a bomb.

so please advise, thanks in advance
1. Its the Alternator regulator. Get it fixed ASAP as it can kill other electricals and damage ECU too
2. Can't do anything. Same problem here. A quick fix is mix some power steering oil with gear oil in winter months, but try at your own risk
3. 4000rs inclusive of everything(approx), but I may be wrong. I am not sure if this cost is for pair or one window motor

As for spending a bomb, if your alternator just needs a regulator change, it will cost you in the ballpark of 2000rs odd. Best get it done from a good electrician, I have had horror stories of alternator repair at TASS on my indica.
If you do manage to find a good independent workshop with scanner in NCR do let me know too!
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