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Old 6th November 2008, 13:46   #286
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Mine used to show this earlier, but now it says OPEN. I don't know what to open?
Abbey, that's quite funny! You do not open anything. You simply go to the authorized asses and they will fix the connection which is open (as in 'open-circuit')!

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Thanks dadu for clarifying the difference between System-D and BG-244. I wasn't saying carbon build-up being not there,
My statement wasn't contesting anyone, did I sound like that ??

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but was trying to learn whether BG-244 is better than System-D.
Will continue to use System-D. Mileage is not a problem as I am already getting ~10.5 in city and ~12.5 on highway. (Have been using System-G too in my petrol car with good results)

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Since you have been using SystemD from begining, continue with it. But BG is definitely more effective.

For those who have started later/ not started and with accumulated carbon deposits, follow the 244 with 248/ CF5.

For those wanting to shift from the measuring of System D everytime during fills to one time in 8k kms, start using CF5/ BG248.

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Dadu,

CF5 and BG248 are not listed on the TML site you had given earlier. What is CF5 ?

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Hey guys i'm so confused about this System D thing. Can someone please tell me what its used for and how it should be used. I recently bought a Safari Dicor 2.2 . & i've not been using any of these additives.

And also tell me if i should use the regular diesel or the XtraPremium one???
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Dadu,

CF5 and BG248 are not listed on the TML site you had given earlier. What is CF5 ?

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CF5 is listed by TATA under additives (not carbon cleaners). CF5 is designed to provide deposit control throughout the life of the engine. BG CF5 will keep intake manifolds, intake ports, intake valves and combustion chambers clean and free of damaging deposits. Maintains “like-new” engine performance. CF5 can be used for both petrol & diesel, it doesnt ride on a specific base.

BG248, although not listed by TATA does the same cleaning as CF5 specifically formulated for diesels.

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Hey guys i'm so confused about this System D thing. Can someone please tell me what its used for and how it should be used. I recently bought a Safari Dicor 2.2 . & i've not been using any of these additives.

And also tell me if i should use the regular diesel or the XtraPremium one???
Used for preventing fuel/ combustion system deposits on an ongoing basis, used WITH regular diesel @1ml per litre. More details here

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hey thanks dadu!! Will go pick up my System D today.
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I am not sure whether anyone else has come across this problem. Thought of adding it anyway - so that it gets included in this exhaustive/resourceful thread.

This happened in the 9th month of owning the beast. The remote unit (Minda) started showing sluggish response and would intermittently go 'dead'. Multimeter tests showed weak battery (of the remote unit). Reported to TASC anyway - because - I thought the battery should last at least for a couple of years. TASC forwarded the issue to Minda - who sent in their support guy. He checked the battery, cleaned the contacts and said all is fine. It worked fine for a couple of days and then went dead. So, I switched to the spare (remote) key - which worked for a few days and that too went dead. Weak battery, the culprit again. Didn't want to visit TASC - so, purchased new batteries and installed. It's been working fine since (4 months now).

The problem is EITHER with the electronics of the remote unit OR the (stock) battery of the remote unit. I would like to think it's the latter. Can confirm only after extended use of the new battery.

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  • If you are going for a long drive or a remote place - always carry a spare battery - along with the proper DIY screw-driver for the remote-unit
  • Make sure you always carry the card that has the control unit code (of the safety system) and the procedure to disarm the "immobilizer". Will come handy - in the worst case scenario of being unable to use the remote unit. [ I have tried the disarm procedure a couple of times - it works fine. Only missing part in the documented procedure is - it doesn't tell you to remove the fuse to stop the "alarm" as you unlock the door with the key. ]
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[ I have tried the disarm procedure a couple of times - it works fine. Only missing part in the documented procedure is - it doesn't tell you to remove the fuse to stop the "alarm" as you unlock the door with the key. ]
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Most probably due to a weak battery only. But which fuse and located where ???, any pictures will also help.
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But i still have doubts how to use BG 244 ?

shall i use it with a tankfull and thats it,i'm all set for next 10k kms ?

Or shall i keep using it with use like i use System D ?

Please clarify
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But i still have doubts how to use BG 244 ?

shall i use it with a tankfull and thats it,i'm all set for next 10k kms ?

Or shall i keep using it with use like i use System D ?

Please clarify
Put BG244 now and fill tank to 60ltrs (subtract whats already left in the tank by approximation)

Run the Safari for the next 7500kms and then during tank fill pour CF5/ BG248.

Run the Safari for the next 7500Kms and then again use BG244.

This is the recommended way.

BG244 usage interval is at 15000km and BG248/ CF5 at 8000 Kms.
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Mine used to show this earlier, but now it says OPEN. I don't know what to open?
Ditto is in my case shows OPEN instead of temp gauge reading so before reading on this thread I had no idea that an ambient temp sensor exists in Safari,BTW Is yours an LX or EX ? I would ask TASS guys next time to fix this
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Most probably due to a weak battery only. But which fuse and located where ???, any pictures will also help.
It's the horn fuse located in the driver-side fuse box [ extreme left column, third from the top - as shown in the pictures ]

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It's the horn fuse located in the driver-side fuse box [ extreme left column, third from the top - as shown in the pictures ]

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Thanks. This is quite usefull. I recall that TASS opened up the panel (behind which the horn is hidden) to stop the horn from blaring. This happened during the 1st service when the TASS did not know the procedure for disconnecting the battery.
I should have thought of that but the horn blaring froze my head.

Please inform is there are any other points to note during dis-arming procedure. I want to try it some time soon. Better to be aware before hand
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Thanks. This is quite usefull. I recall that TASS opened up the panel (behind which the horn is hidden) to stop the horn from blaring. This happened during the 1st service when the TASS did not know the procedure for disconnecting the battery.
I should have thought of that but the horn blaring froze my head.

Please inform is there are any other points to note during dis-arming procedure. I want to try it some time soon. Better to be aware before hand
Some doubts regarding the Factory fitted Immobiliser On EX:

(1)Apart from Dis-arming the horn, is there any way of getting past the im-mobiliser if the remote battery is dead or the remote is not working ? For example, products like Auto-Cop provide a way of punching a code to deactivate the Immobiliser System.

(2)There is a point in the Owners Manual Immobiliser Page " For details refer Electronic security system manual given in the vehicle." Has anybody received this Manual? I for one Haven't!!! I checked up with the dealer in Bangalore & TASS in Chennai, they are not even aware that this manual even exists!!!

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Some doubts regarding the Factory fitted Immobiliser On EX:

(1)Apart from Dis-arming the horn, is there any way of getting past the im-mobiliser if the remote battery is dead or the remote is not working ? For example, products like Auto-Cop provide a way of punching a code to deactivate the Immobiliser System.

(2)There is a point in the Owners Manual Immobiliser Page " For details refer Electronic security system manual given in the vehicle." Has anybody received this Manual? I for one Haven't!!! I checked up with the dealer in Bangalore & TASS in Chennai, they are not even aware that this manual even exists!!!

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I recieved a Immobiliser manual from MINDA which is the OEM for the system fitted on my EX. This came with the Safari manual at the time of taking vehicle delivery. It also had a spare remote and a secutiry card.
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