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Old 9th July 2011, 20:04   #3511
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Did it a couple of times more, the engine was cranking but not starting.

Any ideas as to what went wrong?
Open the bonnet and there would be a oval shaped rubber bladder near the right hand side.Try pressing it.It would be soft as I have a strong suspicion that during that rainy night drive you managed to somehow get water/air in the intake.
Keep pressing it till it becomes hard and you are no longer able to press it.
Then try cranking your engine.If it was indeed air/water into the intake then this should solve the problem.
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I think either some fuse is damaged or their is some problem with ecu.
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... I want to know whether it is advisable to change the ECU of car to aftermarket one, like this one: Tata Safari Dicor 3.0 CRD 115 PS 300 Nm | Diesel Tuning with CHIP Express™ ... are this ECU's directly fitted in place of stock one or both need tobe in the place? Do I need to buy only one of them? ...
Commisserations to your brother. Really admire his love for his vehicle.

This is not an ECU at all, but an add-on box for performance enhancement. The engine won't function without the Delphi ECU. Not recommended that you add the box at this time - the TASS guys will not touch it anyhow. Just buy the original ECU.
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This is not an ECU at all, but an add-on box for performance enhancement. The engine won't function without the Delphi ECU. Not recommended that you add the box at this time - the TASS guys will not touch it anyhow. Just buy the original ECU.
Could you tell me a place where one could search for a used ECU or any aftermarket shop for the new ECU? Anywhere in India.
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My brothers Tata Safari 3.0 DICOR, 2006 model has accidentally burnt due to short circuit in the engine bay. The whole engine bay is burnt and the TASS have sent an estimate of 9.5 Lakhs to the Insurance company. And he is ready to retain the car back. WHoa!!!! I said to him, he could instead buy a new car, but NO! he wants to restore the car back to original. I want to know whether it is advisable to change the ECU of car to aftermarket one, like this one: Tata Safari Dicor 3.0 CRD 115 PS 300 Nm | Diesel Tuning with CHIP Express™ This ECU or whatever it is called produces more power than even 2.2 Vtt. The ECU of the car has also been burnt so are this ECU's directly fitted in place of stock one or both need tobe in the place? Do I need to buy only one of them? Could anybody tell me the price of Safari 3.0 DICOR ECU?? Need urgent assistance..
I am curious, what did the insurance company say in this case? Are they paying anything?
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I am curious, what did the insurance company say in this case? Are they paying anything?
Nothing has been done as of now, the car is resting at TASC and the claim estimate has been sent, the Insurance guys will respond within few days, then only something could be commented upon.
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Could you tell me a place where one could search for a used ECU or any aftermarket shop for the new ECU? Anywhere in India.
Buy it from TASS - don't cut corners. Better than getting stranded if the ECU fails.

This is unlikely to be available aftermarket.
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Open the bonnet and there would be a oval shaped rubber bladder near the right hand side.Try pressing it.It would be soft as I have a strong suspicion that during that rainy night drive you managed to somehow get water/air in the intake.
Keep pressing it till it becomes hard and you are no longer able to press it.
Then try cranking your engine.If it was indeed air/water into the intake then this should solve the problem.
Already did it. Didnt work.

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I think either some fuse is damaged or their is some problem with ecu.
The recovery team checked all the fuses. That didnt work either.
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Already did it. Didnt work.


The recovery team checked all the fuses. That didnt work either.
Okay just narrowing down the problem.
So intake is clear.
All fuses in perfect working order.
The engine cranks but does not start.

Did you check the battery output and the starter?

Does push starting works? If yes then I will put all my money on the starter gone bad.
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Okay! This is not a technical problem or an "issue".

Where do i fill water for the rear window washer??
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@josepeter

There is one common water receptacle for the front screen washer as well the rear washer. At least this was the case positively for my former TCIC Safari. I see no reason why it should be any different for the 2.2
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Okay! This is not a technical problem or an "issue".

Where do i fill water for the rear window washer??
There are 2 pumps attached to the same water tank. Fill that up.
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Hi all,

Well my car's timing belt broke yesterday, my car is a month away from two years so its under warranty, the car is right now at the service center. I do not know much about this so what what kind of stuff is going to be changed (or is it only the belt) also am I supposed to pay for anything cause I guess this problem is to be done under warranty right? Also what kind of wait time am I looking at?
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Hi all,

Well my car's timing belt broke yesterday, my car is a month away from two years so its under warranty, the car is right now at the service center. I do not know much about this so what what kind of stuff is going to be changed (or is it only the belt) also am I supposed to pay for anything cause I guess this problem is to be done under warranty right? Also what kind of wait time am I looking at?
The entire timing kit + some supplimentary stuff will be changed under warranty. It should be done within 3-4 days max unless there is a shortage of parts
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Hi all,

Well my car's timing belt broke yesterday, my car is a month away from two years so its under warranty, the car is right now at the service center. I do not know much about this so what what kind of stuff is going to be changed (or is it only the belt) also am I supposed to pay for anything cause I guess this problem is to be done under warranty right? Also what kind of wait time am I looking at?
I went for checkup to the service center about a week back as I had to go on my trip to Delhi-Pushkar-Chittorgarh. They said the timing belt needs replacement. They changed the belt and water pump under warranty. However i had to pay for tensioner and idler. Around Rs 3500. TSK said it all should be paid, so was i cheated by workshop people? My car is under extended warranty, about to complete it's 4 yrs this november.
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