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Old 11th September 2012, 11:15   #4741
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Please get the differential and crown checked.

Hi All,

I have a weird electrical problem with my 2007 Safari 3.0. The car works fine initially and after driving a few kms the car's tachometer goes to 0 rpm and the AC fan blows slower. This lethargic behaviour makes you feel like its in crawl mode but the car works as usual, Then after a few revving of the accelerator the tacho starts working and AC blowers are back to normal speed.

This problem occurs quite rarely say once in 7-8 drives. I got an electrician to check all the wirings and he says everything is fine. And moreover its not recurrent and I m not able to replicate it when i take it a service station

What could be the issue ? What more should i check ?
Is your battery fine? u might want to get it checked incase you are still using the original battery. Also get the belts checked.
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Old 11th September 2012, 12:42   #4742
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Please get the differential and crown checked.

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This problem occurs quite rarely say once in 7-8 drives. I got an electrician to check all the wirings and he says everything is fine. And moreover its not recurrent and I m not able to replicate it when i take it a service station

What could be the issue ? What more should i check ?
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Is your battery fine? u might want to get it checked incase you are still using the original battery. Also get the belts checked.

Yup, get battery and then alternator checked. I had similar issues and had to change brushes of it etc.

Anyone know where the pollen filter ( if its called so) is ? I was told my ex-Safari man to get it changed since he is sure my AC wasnt upto the mark.
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My car is 3 yrs old,today during a routine check of my car I found the under-body has paint peeling and shows signs of rusting in some places, nothing major. I want to get an under-body antirust treatment done on it so I have a few queries:
1) what is the exact treatment that has to be done, and any specific brand to go for like 3M, Weurth, etc.?
2) What should be the approximate cost for the same cause I will be getting it done at a professional place and not the TASS cause I dont trust them.
3) Any specific locations on the under-body of the Safari I have to tell to be-careful during the coating process?
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My car is 3 yrs old,today during a routine check of my car I found the under-body has paint peeling and shows signs of rusting in some places, nothing major. I want to get an under-body antirust treatment done on it so I have a few queries:
1) what is the exact treatment that has to be done, and any specific brand to go for like 3M, Weurth, etc.?
2) What should be the approximate cost for the same cause I will be getting it done at a professional place and not the TASS cause I dont trust them.
3) Any specific locations on the under-body of the Safari I have to tell to be-careful during the coating process?
Even my car is 3 yrs old, I have got the antirust "weurth" treatment done by TASS when the vehicle was purchased, but still certain parts like the engine shield has rusted, the treatment is done only on specific components by the ASC, it is better to get it done outside and under your supervision.

The treatment is not done for chassis, but is done for the floor area and certain areas in the wheel wells.
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Easy to replicate, actually. This is quite likely due to intermittence at the respective connectors..
The slowing down of the AC fan also could be of the same reason ? And as you said the issue has nt creeped up over the past 2 days.

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Is your battery fine? u might want to get it checked incase you are still using the original battery. Also get the belts checked.
I changed the battery once after acquiring the car in 2007. Its about 2 years now since i touched it. Which belt are u talking about ? I changed the power steering belt once recently.

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Yup, get battery and then alternator checked. I had similar issues and had to change brushes of it etc.
What brushes did you change ?

And guys I ll be driving from chennai to Sakleshpur over the weekend. Is the problem i ve mentioned something I should get checked immediately ? Its not bothering now ?

And my car is a 2wd version. Can it handle Sakleshpur ? I saw a few threads and the roads looked very slushy. Have any of you bangalore folks been there recently ?
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And my car is a 2wd version. Can it handle Sakleshpur?
Suren - Sakleshpur is a town on NH48 The answer to your query above depends on the areas you want to cover around Sakleshpur.
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And my car is a 2wd version. Can it handle Sakleshpur ? I saw a few threads and the roads looked very slushy. Have any of you bangalore folks been there recently ?
Roads in Sakleshpur are not slushy, but if you want to visit some interior places, then you might be driving on slushy roads, but nothing to stop a 4x2.
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Hi,

I am facing a leakage problem in my new Safari. There's some water dripping down from the front windshield every-time it rains. Is this due to the sealant coming off or something more should be done?
Also I was driving in slippers when I felt some droplets on my foot when I pressed the clutch. Is there an A/C water drain pipe nearby that would have caused this?
So in the 3 weeks of ownership I'll be taking it to TASS 3rd time.
So much for Ratan Tata wondering why his cars don't sell as much as his competitors .
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Also I was driving in slippers when I felt some droplets on my foot when I pressed the clutch. Is there an A/C water drain pipe nearby that would have caused this?
So in the 3 weeks of ownership I'll be taking it to TASS 3rd time.
Yes, you are correct, Even I have faced this issue 2 times and the A.S.S was quick to point out and reconnect the drain pipe.
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Hi,

I am facing a leakage problem in my new Safari. There's some water dripping down from the front windshield every-time it rains. Is this due to the sealant coming off or something more should be done?
Also I was driving in slippers when I felt some droplets on my foot when I pressed the clutch. Is there an A/C water drain pipe nearby that would have caused this?
So in the 3 weeks of ownership I'll be taking it to TASS 3rd time.
So much for Ratan Tata wondering why his cars don't sell as much as his competitors .
I have had a bad experience with my Grande MKII because of the leaking front windshiled. When I changed it a year back it leaked and I had to take it back to set it right. Obviously they did not do a good job and a couple of weeks back it started leaking and the worst part was that on closer inspection I found the top to be rusted. Concorde ECR Chennai bluntly refused to accept that it was because of poor workmanship... When I wanted to complain to TATA I was given a name and number, but that number is switched off for the last two days. Therefore please ensure that the *** does a good job of sealing
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My safari has lost acceleration/pickup. Following were some of the problematic things which have now been fixed -

1. Clutch Overhaul - 5k parts and 3k labor -local mechanic.
2. Rear brake shoes replacement - 1600parts +700 labor. - local mechanic
3. EGR cleaning - 1600 -TASS.

After the EGR cleaning the acceleration has improved to some extent, but still the beast is not running like a beast. Gave at autolinks VK and they said, its the whole fuel pump and injectors, would cross over a lac. I am confused.

There is no extra smoke. After EGR cleaning the acceleration has improved, but it is accelerating in jerks. I will drive few more days, and try zero in on the driving experience.

Any pointers? Any after market shop in delhi that can take a look at the fuel pump etc?
Took the car to delphi-tvs service center to check injectors and fuel pump. He told as the exhaust is fine, and no starting problem, so can rule out injectors and fuel pump. Am advised to change fuel filter and sedimenter. I am also thinking of changing all vacuum hoses.
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When the steering is turned slowly, esp at low speeds, it makes sounds like old door creaking? Does Tata use an old door in the construction of the steering system to cut costs? Or its just the center pin requiring lubrication(again)
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When the steering is turned slowly, esp at low speeds, it makes sounds like old door creaking? Does Tata use an old door in the construction of the steering system to cut costs? Or its just the center pin requiring lubrication(again)
Hi TSK,

I think its time for you to change the universal joints in the steering column. You can try and lubricate them, but if your SUV has done closer to 100K kms and been on worst roads most of the time, then change the universal joints. Parts 2000 and labor 600. I have done it on my safari 6 months ago. Prem
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When the steering is turned slowly, esp at low speeds, it makes sounds like old door creaking? Does Tata use an old door in the construction of the steering system to cut costs? Or its just the center pin requiring lubrication(again)
Yes, you're probably right they do use some of the door hinges for constructing the steering. In the TCIC, the steering was making noise and in my 3.0L DICOR too it makes like a rusting or metal grinding noise. Many hidden features that tend to show only at age, just like unlockables in games. Tata Safari says .
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Took the car to delphi-tvs service center to check injectors and fuel pump. He told as the exhaust is fine, and no starting problem, so can rule out injectors and fuel pump. Am advised to change fuel filter and sedimenter. I am also thinking of changing all vacuum hoses.
Decided to check the engine myself to see if anything is out of place, that i can have a mechanic looked at. Somehow noticed a wire that was damaged by the radiator fan, as it was not fastened properly. So got the wire bandaged, and beast is back to its running best.
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