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Old 1st January 2013, 18:14   #4951
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Both issues have very simple solutions, a fuse is available almost at every auto parts store, and even replacing the fused bulb is a simple DIY.

Just to update - I got the fog lamp bulb (H3 bulb 55W) replaced at a car accessory shop. Did not venture into doing it myself as one need to access the same by going below the front bumper (or take it on a ramp), though I did find some interesting offers for the bulb on ebay etc.

However, I did replace the fuse for park lamp, LH (10A) myself after procuring a set of fuses from ebay (MINI BLADE CAR FUSES -PACIFIC MADE IN JAPAN, they claim). It worked like a charm confirming that the troubleshooting was correct; propmtly kept the remaining ones from the set for future use.

I would not have tried the above without the help/advice received from this forum - I would have taken the vehicle to TASS straight away and made a bigger hole in my pocket for sure, and not to mention the time/effort required for taking it to TASS, wait for the work to complete and take it back.

The satisfaction we get after doing things ourselves is the bonus. Long live Team BHP .

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To the Safari Gurus,
Recently bought a Safari LX, only a couple of days back. Will share the photo and buying experience later on though. But during fitment of a after-market Alloy, encountered with a starnge issues.

Whenever the front wheels are fitted with Alloy and turned lock to lock, it started fouling with the plastic flap and the inner body wall. But, there is abolutely no change in the tyre size, still has the shoe size of 235/70/R16.

Then my question :
- Is it a standard issue with any safari or mine got it special?
- How to rectify the problem here ?
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Old 2nd January 2013, 18:44   #4953
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Recently bought a Safari LX, only a couple of days back. Will share the photo and buying experience later on though. But during fitment of a after-market Alloy, encountered with a starnge issues.

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Whenever the front wheels are fitted with Alloy and turned lock to lock, it started fouling with the plastic flap and the inner body wall. But, there is abolutely no change in the tyre size, still has the shoe size of 235/70/R16.

Then my question :
- Is it a standard issue with any safari or mine got it special?
Did you check the wheel size and offset, not all 16" wheels are the same as the OE size.
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Old 3rd January 2013, 07:44   #4954
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Facing this issue of erratic engine rpm at idling. The RPM constantly hovers between 800 and 840 (detected via a scanner).I have been using System D for past 2 months (~ 6 tankfuls) with little or no effect.The truck has clocked 1,54,000 kms. Any pointers ?
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Facing this issue of erratic engine rpm at idling. The RPM constantly hovers between 800 and 840 (detected via a scanner).I have been using System D for past 2 months (~ 6 tankfuls) with little or no effect.The truck has clocked 1,54,000 kms. Any pointers ?
Most probably clogged injectors. Ask the service center to do the use the diamond test suite to ascertain the health of injectors and fuel injection pump.

Also have the error codes checked via their diagnostic laptop.
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Facing this issue of erratic engine rpm at idling. The RPM constantly hovers between 800 and 840 (detected via a scanner).I have been using System D for past 2 months (~ 6 tankfuls) with little or no effect.The truck has clocked 1,54,000 kms. Any pointers ?
Try changing fuel temperature sensor in the fuel pump. There is no diagnosis possible as there is no error code.
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Try changing fuel temperature sensor in the fuel pump. There is no diagnosis possible as there is no error code.
Any idea if Delphi service center will be able do this job ? As my Safari is out of warranty , I don't mind taking her directly to Delphi instead of going via TASC (Maybe I will end up saving few Rs. as well !!!)
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Any idea if Delphi service center will be able do this job ? As my Safari is out of warranty , I don't mind taking her directly to Delphi instead of going via TASC (Maybe I will end up saving few Rs. as well !!!)
No, they cannot figure out anything. They will just scan ECU, when they do not find error codes, they will not be able to do anything.
I went through this for 6 months.
My suggestion is that if your vehicle is running properly, then let it be. This does not really cause any problem
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To the Safari Gurus,
Recently bought a Safari LX, only a couple of days back. Will share the photo and buying experience later on though. But during fitment of a after-market Alloy, encountered with a starnge issues.

Whenever the front wheels are fitted with Alloy and turned lock to lock, it started fouling with the plastic flap and the inner body wall. But, there is abolutely no change in the tyre size, still has the shoe size of 235/70/R16.

Then my question :
- Is it a standard issue with any safari or mine got it special?
- How to rectify the problem here ?
To rectify just cut the mud flap, and use a hammer to press the area where the wheel is touching. Ask your tyre fitter to do that for you. You can also try ignoring this issue, as its only a minor irritant.

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Facing this issue of erratic engine rpm at idling. The RPM constantly hovers between 800 and 840 (detected via a scanner).I have been using System D for past 2 months (~ 6 tankfuls) with little or no effect.The truck has clocked 1,54,000 kms. Any pointers ?
If you are not feeling anything wrong, then let it be. Better not touch anything for this minor issue. How is the smoke? Which engine oil you use? tried engine flush? or engine oil additives?
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To rectify just cut the mud flap, and use a hammer to press the area where the wheel is touching. Ask your tyre fitter to do that for you. You can also try ignoring this issue, as its only a minor irritant.
Thanks Ankur, in fact I was also thinking about the same. Ignoring is not an option though, it is fouling quite strongly with the body.
But, is this is the problem and resolution all other safari owners faced, whoever has gone for aftermarket alloys?
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But, is this is the problem and resolution all other safari owners faced, whoever has gone for aftermarket alloys?
No.
This is happening because the alloys you have chosen have an 'offset' compared to the OEM rims.
The right set of alloys will not have this problem. Do exchange these for suitable ones.
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Thanks Ankur, in fact I was also thinking about the same. Ignoring is not an option though, it is fouling quite strongly with the body.
But, is this is the problem and resolution all other safari owners faced, whoever has gone for aftermarket alloys?
the stock alloy size is 6.5J and you must have gone for wider alloys than that, its simple

i am using 6.5J aftermarket alloys and no problem
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Default re: The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

Browsing across i came across this

2.2 Euro V 150PS engine details

The link is misleading by name but the details mentioned in it is truly informative. Seems like a complete manual

http://xenon.tatamotors.com/fla/asse...on_3.0L_en.pdf

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Of late I have seen that while turning the steering in parked vehicle, it often jams for a bit. So getting out of parallel parking spots is tough.
Steering damper was changed, but it did not improve things.
My SA is telling me that pump is weak, but if pump it weak why does it only jam at some points. I suspect something "mechanical" is causing obstruction somewhere.
What should I check?
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Browsing across i came across this

2.2 Euro V 150PS engine details

The link is misleading by name but the details mentioned in it is truly informative. Seems like a complete manual

http://xenon.tatamotors.com/fla/asse...on_3.0L_en.pdf
That PDF file has the link to the workshop manual of Xenon. I downloaded the workshop manual. It is useful for Safari too. Except for some changes like the position of electric switches.

Good find Rahul.
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