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Old 12th November 2013, 02:14   #5416
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Hello friends An advice needed Recently on my trip back from goa i came nonstop to mumbai during ganesh festival. At one pit stop i noticed a rubber burning type smell from left hand side rear tyre which i thought must be due to continuous speeding on the nh4 A few days back i had to go to ganapatipule. In between this and previous ride my car was unused. Okay now when i was leaving from ganapatipule i had to use handbrake a few times to move my car as i was on an incline and there was much traffic due to diwali holiday. On final release of my handbrake i saw the hand brake indicator not going off which struck me that there must be some problem with brake system. It was night and i had to go to Amba, an hill station some 90 kms from there. I had no access to a mechanic or any spare part shop as it was already 8 pm and i decided to go to Amba with the indicator light still on. Fortunately there was no issue with braking and i reached amba safe. I stayed there for a day. On the third morning while departing to mumbai, i decided to check the fault and found that the brakes were almost non existent and the brake oil had come to minimum but it was not empty. I immediately bought some oil and filled it which made the indicator lamp go off and i pumped the brakes to bleed out air and kept topping up the oil till it did not reduce in volume in the brake oil container. The brakes were good after that but were not that great and hence i decided to get them bleed by a road mechanic , after which brakes were excellent. Before i touched nh4 i had to use parking brakes . After that almost 40 kms the brakes again started dwindling and light came in. Fortunately there was TASS at satara , i went there and the guy told me that there is a minor leakage in the drums and parking brakes increases the issue more and they need to remove and check , but wld take 5-6 hrs . I did not have the time to wait that long, so they advised me to go on topping the oil , not use parking brakes and do the repair in mumbai. As advised i followed and reached mumbai safely with minimal brakes and no major issues Now my query is

Can i get the checking and repairing done by my own mechanic and replace the drums if it is not that complicated issue. ?
Or is this repair work a specialised procedure and i have to go to TASS ?

The reason i am asking because TASS is far off and leaving the car there taking appointment etc takes lot of time. I have another goa trip coming up in 2 weeks so your advice on above incident and remedies awaited

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Old 12th November 2013, 03:55   #5417
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yes, you can get it done outside as its a normal wear and tear issue. must be a faulty seal.
any competant mechanic should do it in couple of hours max.

replace all seals if you are getting it done and scrub the drums well.
change brake pads/shoes and lastly bleed the system well after draining old oil and putting new brake oil of proper specification.

you should be all set for next 50k kms or so.
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Old 12th November 2013, 09:13   #5418
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Hello

Thanks a lot. I just have a few technical questions. I use the hand brake often when on inclines. So can anyone tell me what is the best setting for a hand brake. I asked a technician and he said it must engage when the lever is almost half to 3/4 way up, beyond which lifting it must be hard. If it goes up all the way then the brake is not effective.
I am asking this because in reference to above query i feel i have got this problem after engaging hand brakes. I have asked TASS people many times. However each time they adjust the brakes differently. On certain visit they make it tight certain visit it is loose. So since i am going to call my mechanic is there a specific way i must adjust the brake setting for safari.

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Hello
Just to update , i got my car checked and the mechanic told me that a brake line , a plastic/metal ?? tube which connects the front tyre to master cylinder has a leak, must be changed at TASS
I went to TASS, they anyhow checked everything (950inr wasted) and told me the same thing and informed that the part cost 1000inr, fitting charges 600 inr, but not available as it is the first time such thing has happened so need to wait 3-4 days to get it.
I have extended warranty so would like to know if that part is covered , TASS guy said no its not.
To brief, this line is the metal thing that runs parallel to the dashboard under the hood connecting brake fluid cylinder on the left to all tyres individually.
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Old 24th November 2013, 23:05   #5420
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Hi Guys,

Finally I got my Safari from the TASS after the timing belt issue was sorted out. Now my car has the "updated" F kit, a new head and a lot of shiny new pulley's and HLA's,injector calibration and other stuff.

Got a query, my car gives a blob of whitie-greyish smoke when I accelerate hard in 2nd at around 2.5K,the turbo push is all good but the smoke is new to me,never noticed it and is kind of more than normal. Only happens in the first and second gear at high RPM's or neutral rev's. Is this normal or something needs to be checked out?

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Old 25th November 2013, 11:44   #5421
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Recently my clutch lost the power, and the cause was identified as leaky master cylinder. The master and slave was replaced. But it seems the mechanic did not do the job properly. Now facing the issue of reduced pickup on leaving clutch when moving from stationary, and first gear - neutral change is also a little harder. Pointers please ..
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Old 25th November 2013, 14:05   #5422
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To brief, this line is the metal thing that runs parallel to the dashboard under the hood connecting brake fluid cylinder on the left to all tyres individually.
Hi,
If you intend to change it outside TASS, you can buy a brand new pipe at a factory in Mulund(W),located at the industrial complex just opposite Tata Showroom off LBS road. That factory is into making these tubes.Just take the old tube as sample and you can get exactly same size,length and ermato couplings.With a valid bill (VAT included)if you so desire. You might save a few bucks .
I got one from this factory for my Indigo,when the tube started leaking.
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Hey guys,

one of my headrest monitors has conked off, So where can I get the same model? My safari is a VX which came with the screens from the manufacturer itself. Local accessories guys dont have the same model and recommend changing both the screens but I'd like to see if I get the same model before. Will it be available with the Tata Spares or is it available anywhere In India and if so can you guys help me source it please?

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Old 29th November 2013, 15:54   #5424
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Hey guys,

one of my headrest monitors has conked off, So where can I get the same model? My safari is a VX which came with the screens from the manufacturer itself. Local accessories guys dont have the same model and recommend changing both the screens but I'd like to see if I get the same model before. Will it be available with the Tata Spares or is it available anywhere In India and if so can you guys help me source it please?
Hi richie4u,

No offences, but have you thought of putting a bigger single screen instead of these two small once. I gues that may be a cheaper option & that can actually fit into rear of the seats as shown in the second image that you attached.
My personal experience with these two small screens is not good. I feel really dizzy, in a very short span. Hence suggesting s bigger screeen.
Roof mounted is also not a bad option. That can hang under the 2nd AC or can be mounted close to it on roof, in between the two front row seats.

Manufacturer is Axion. I guess the model you are looking for is out of production since over a year. You may have to think of some other models. Unless you find something unsold for a long time. or may have to import it from Axion (original manufacturer).

Anyone thinks otherwise, please??

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Old 29th November 2013, 19:22   #5425
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My Safari's front right tire has developed a bubble. Got the spare wheel in that place and did a wheel balancing and alignment on doing so at Darshan Tyres, Lullanagar, Pune.

Total running is just about 15000, so there isn't great deal of difference in the tread depth of other tires with the spare wheel.

Since then I find the steering tilting towards right voluntarily.

I have next servicing due in 3/4 weeks. So thought of showing this problem in the same visit.

Just wanted to know whether it is alright to pull on for a few more days or I'll be worsening the problem by driving in this state. (Not planning any long trip in these days.)

Also, is the problem wheel balancing related? In that case how is that it occurred just after getting the balancing done? May be their system is faulty and I should try getting the balancing done at some other place or TASS?
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Old 29th November 2013, 20:10   #5426
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Hi richie4u,

No offences, but have you thought of putting a bigger single screen instead of these two small once. I gues that may be a cheaper option & that can actually fit into rear of the seats as shown in the second image that you attached.
My personal experience with these two small screens is not good. I feel really dizzy, in a very short span. Hence suggesting s bigger screeen.
Roof mounted is also not a bad option. That can hang under the 2nd AC or can be mounted close to it on roof, in between the two front row seats.

Anyone thinks otherwise, please??
Well Saurabh I'd go for other options if every attempt fails but for now as I said only one of the screens are gone, the other one is perfect so I'm searching for the same model if available somewhere in India. A lot of our team bhpians stay in other Metro's where they could know if its available there so I'm trying and I still request if you guys can find out if available(specially in Mumbai) and help me procure it.
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During my test drive of a safari dicor 2.2vtt the temperature needle wouldnt go up until a km then it would slowly go up? is this a problem kinldy help as i am holding the deal of buying up a used safari, thanks
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Hi Everybody.

I'm having two issues with my 2013 Dicor:

1. On idle the RPM has fluctuating between 600-1000 rpm. The PUC guys have started giving me problems regarding this also. A similar thing had happened about two months ago where the RPM would suddenly shoot up very high and would reduce only when I pressed the brake. This started happening when the sedimenter light started glowing and stopped after I changed the sedimenter as it had got spoilt.

2. The steering and gearshift start shaking wildly when I accelerate on a flyover and am around 70-80 kmph especially if the flyover is a curve. The flyovers where this happens have small gaps on the road to account for contraction/expansion.

Request your insights on these.


hi did your rpm fluctuating issue got sorted let me know as i am facing the same problem
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@Sanjusahu - that is normal. What is important is that hte needle should reach half-mark in 2-3 km or so, and then remain steady there. During regular running, If the needle goes below / above half mark, then you need to get it checked.
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hi did your rpm fluctuating issue got sorted let me know as i am facing the same problem
Yes. They drained out all the water (or whatever ) from the sedimenter and it was absolutely fine . I will change the petrol pump from where I have been filling fuel and see if it comes up again.

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