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Old 2nd January 2014, 00:56   #5461
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I was getting service light all the time with engine braking and the error code came out to be P1254 Fuel Consumption Signal Short to B+ . Any solutions to this?
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Old 2nd January 2014, 11:48   #5462
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The safari has leaked power steering oil. all of it. Probably happened within 24 hours. Any pointers to what could be the cause? Which seal could be the culprit?
Leak is near the drivers side tire and wishbone area.
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DerAlte is spot on. Nothing is wrong with the fuel pump. It is one of the sensors which is the problem.
With ECUs and electronics it should be a simple problem to solve. Error code, and you are done.
But you know what, this is Tata motors. And I think their R&D people do not like to think much. Probably they feel, just like driving the car causes wear and tear, thinking too much will cause wear and tear and error codes in their brain.

So the error code will tell you. "Engine speed does not match acc input".
I mean we know that genius.
I do not need an OBD scanner for that.
Good luck getting a meaningful answer. Tata does not know the case, nor do the TASS. So its hit and trial.
I suggest you start with the accelerator pedal. It cost 7000 though. So best bet is to pray its some rust somewhere, and simply clean the contacts.

Last but not the least, is there an error code? If not, then its party time.
There is no error code, no check engine light when this occurs. I asked the TASS to clean all the sensors and they cleaned it with 3M Service plus spray. Guess what the poor chaps there tried to do; a daylight robbery by telling me that the pump and injectors needs tobe changed cost 1L Rs (60K for 5L pump and 12*4K for injectors), thanks to the mechanic there who knows me, he told the the injectors are fine.

The problem has not occurred from last service, so let's pray and hope for good.
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Started a new thread with pictures etc.,
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...y-options.html
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Need some advice on changing the brake pads.
Decided to go for new brake pads and enquired the details
Since I have few highway drives planned in coming weeks and no time to look for outside garages, went ahead and changed the brake pads in TASS itself on Saturday.
Costed me Rs 2998 + 380 [Labor].

Along with this I had changed the left wheel bearing due to some grinding noise and right ball joint due to excessive play. so in total I had to pay 6.2k as bill amount.

The labor at TASS is really unbearable. The ball joint costs around Rs 600 and labor for fixing it is 450. similar thing goes for the wheel bearing change also.

After talking so much philosophy, the SA gave me some 12 % discount overall. otherwise the bill came around 7k for all this work.

I expected a water wash atleast after all this work, but got the car dirtier than before.

OT : If someone has one OEM BS tyre as spare in good or above average condition, please let me know. I will buy it.

2 of my tyres had uneven wear and tear because of a bad alignement in the past. one tyre I moved as stephaney and other one I wanted to change. rest 3 tyres are really in good conditon and should go for another 20k kms atleast. no plans to change all the tyres now, so looking for some options.
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Hi Experts,

What could be possible cause of diesel (raw) smell , when driven continuously (>10 kms or 20 mins) on steep inclines?

No diesel leakages are visible below the truck or under the hood.

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... What could be possible cause of diesel (raw) smell , when driven continuously (>10 kms or 20 mins)
... on steep inclines? ...
Up? Down? Both?

3 possibilities:

1. Your fresh air flap door is open (possibly even windows), and you are smelling unburnt fuel from another vehicle (since you said 'steep inclines')

2. Your fresh air flap door is open, and something IS leaking in the engine compartment - even if it is unburnt gases, if not liquid fuel leakage. Could be diesel return line or something associated with the exhaust

3. The connection pipe between the filling nozzle and the tank is cracked / not fitted properly. Any vapors coming out will ultimately intrude into the cabin through gaps in the FRP cladding on the left
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What could be possible cause of diesel (raw) smell , when driven continuously (>10 kms or 20 mins) on steep inclines?

No diesel leakages are visible below the truck or under the hood.

Cheers!
Irish
The diesel hand pump is leaking. Its a vapor leak, will not result in fuel drops on stationary car.
Inspect the hand pump line. Common issue with Safari.

Regarding fresh air flap. It never works. Trust me. I had tried adjustments after adjustments, it always stays open. Only solution is to take a piece of cardboard and permanently block the damn thing.
if your safari has a working flap, then its your lucky day.

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Dear experts - there is some huffing and puffing and squeaking noise from the shock absorbers/suspension when going over bad roads. Is there a way I can lubricate them to reduce this noise?

You know, on a wet day when the car is wet, you usually dont hear this noise and the car is pretty smooth. But when it is dry, such noises do come up. I'm sure some lubrication will help, but I dont know what to lubricate.

Pls advise.
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Brake failure. Break oil leaked out. WOndering what it could be? Master cylinder for the brakes? I hope its not the brake booster.
Any brake specialist in delhi NCR?
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I have started a thread with the details
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ml#post3342863
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Regarding fresh air flap. It never works. Trust me. I had tried adjustments after adjustments, it always stays open. Only solution is to take a piece of cardboard and permanently block the damn thing.
if your safari has a working flap, then its your lucky day.
Hi tsk,
Probably a noob question - Is this a DIY thing? If yes, is there any link/photos available?

Thanks
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Hi tsk,
Probably a noob question - Is this a DIY thing? If yes, is there any link/photos available?

Thanks
Actually, its not DIY. You have to remove the plastic panel below the wipers. Autolinks did it for me. Not visible from outside.
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Is this a DIY thing? If yes, is there any link/photos available?
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...rranty-47.html

Hope this will help you.

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That was fast

Thanks SS. Will give it a try
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