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Old 6th February 2015, 11:01   #5821
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I am considering to buy a used Storme 4x4 but have noticed oil leakage/ spill in the engine bay, marked using a white arrow (image attached) what could it be? how can it be fixed and is it something to worry about?

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If its a spill its okay, if its a leak, then you need to take a judgement call.
Safari Leaks are of the following types. The first three are benign, and are no problem at all.
1. Sump leak :
Fairly common and benign. You just replace sump gasket
2. Turbo pipe leak
Again benign. Simple fix replacing hose. Common in slightly older vehicles
3. Oil pressure sensor connector leak
Easy too. Just add some gasket maker and refix sensor

The problem ones
4. Gearbox seal leak
Again, common in older vehicles, but can damage clutch plates. Again, nothing else to worry about.

The real real problematic ones are engine related Engine rear gasket ,Engine head blah blah

This can be sign of trouble.
However, for a Storme with low mileage, its some pipe. The plumbing of Storme engine may be slightly different.
It just may be a spill.

Some closer pics of the area in question will let us answer your question better.
And also remember, she is not leaking oil, she is marking her territory.
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Old 6th February 2015, 14:41   #5822
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Now here is the update to my Beast's Battery problem:

The battery was drained or so it appeared since it gulped down a good 2 bottles of distilled water. The battery was recharged to the full and it started working like before. But this is just part of the story.

After full charge and other sundry make-up, the problem resurfaced in about 3 hours. Somehow the battery got drained out again. By the way, all these experiments were done by my brother in law since I am cooling my heals here in Milan. With nothing left to experiment further, beast was taken to TASS for a check-up.

As per the findings of the TASS guys, there is no problem with anything in the starting engineering. All components are working perfectly fine. Even to their mystery, they declared the battery brought dead. The factory fitted Tata Batteries have an year and half warranty and the period has long been overtaken. So the suggestion and probably the only option was to buy a fresh battery and be done away with (hopefully) the problem.

As suggested by my BIL, Amaron maintenance free battery of 85 ampere is fitted in the beast. The exchange for the old battery came out to be Rs 1000/- and the final cost of the new one after all settlements is Rs 5400/-.

I do believe my battery guy but still there is a question - Safari comes with 80 Amp batteries and now I have a 85 Amp battery in my beast. Hope that is not too much of a problem. In fact the battery guy told that many Safari and Fortuner chaps go with 85 Amp batteries now days.

Hope my beast would be in jacket fine shape when I am back home. And of course, tons of thanks to people out here and my BIL, who took the pain of doing all this in absence of me.
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...question - Safari comes with 80 Amp batteries and now I have a 85 Amp battery in my beast. Hope that is not too much of a problem...
Should not be a problem. Technically, it will take a wee bit longer to charge completely by the alternator, and, will hold a little longer too, when being discharged.

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Off Late I am noticing that the Radiator fan runs for longer duration...
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...Check coolant level in radiator and not just coolant tank.. Get radiator flushed. These are just few ideas.
+1. Also check the mesh/screen in front of radiator- over time it gets clogged with dust, bugs, leaves etc and prevents free flow of air through it. Wash it with a gentle hose and blow some compressed air. Should help.

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Hi guys,

Had a small query, was checking my Safari's engine oil level a while earlier and I noticed it was a tad below the midway mark and closer towards min level. So I want to top it up but how do I know how much I need?,is there a way to know how much exactly you need or do I have to do manually by topping up 500ml at a time and checking whether the level has risen?.Please advise.
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Hi guys,

Had a small query, was checking my Safari's engine oil level a while earlier and I noticed it was a tad below the midway mark and closer towards min level. So I want to top it up but how do I know how much I need?,is there a way to know how much exactly you need or do I have to do manually by topping up 500ml at a time and checking whether the level has risen?.Please advise.
Usually, manufacturers make the marks indicating about a liter between low and high marks depending on the total oil capacity, but checking while adding small amounts until the correct amount is achieved is a good idea.
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Hi guys,

Had a small query, was checking my Safari's engine oil level a while earlier and I noticed it was a tad below the midway mark and closer towards min level. So I want to top it up but how do I know how much I need?,is there a way to know how much exactly you need or do I have to do manually by topping up 500ml at a time and checking whether the level has risen?.Please advise.
Hope the oil level was checked when the engine was cold or after a gap of 4-5 hours from the last drive?! If NOT please do recheck and then decide what should be the amount of oil to be added.

What is the oil capacity the Safari's engine takes in?
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Yes, I did check the oil level when the vehicle was not used at all today. Safari needs 7.5 Lts. of oil in total.
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Yes, I did check the oil level when the vehicle was not used at all today. Safari needs 7.5 Lts. of oil in total.
Ok. So adding 500ml won't hurt IMO. Do add and check it once.

But why are you adding when the mark is between 'MIN' and 'MAX'? When it reaches 'MIN' then add is what I feel.
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Ya. I did the same during my recent journey from dehradun to jammu. The engine oil level before starting drive was at minimum. I added one litre of 15w40 to bring the mark just below max. Consulted tass also. They confirmed topping up at regular intervals may be required!
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Double check the coolant levels, and top up. check for leaks around the engine compartment and hoses that connect to the radiator. Its not easy to visually see the coolant level in the Safari.

Sometimes the rubber hoses get hard over time, and start developing minor leaks. Something that the ASC will typically ignore.
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Noisy fan can just mean a fan at the end of life or lose. Check coolant level in radiator and not just coolant tank.. Get radiator flushed. These are just few ideas.
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+1. Also check the mesh/screen in front of radiator- over time it gets clogged with dust, bugs, leaves etc and prevents free flow of air through it. Wash it with a gentle hose and blow some compressed air. Should help.

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Thank you all for the suggestions, took it to Concorde Pune last Saturday, They kept the Safari for whole day did few test runs and then plugged in the OBD Tool. The coolant level was fine, there were no leaks, the engine tempereature was also fine. Coolant flushing was not suggested and when I asked if it should be done, they said its not required right now. The fan took some time to cut off after switching off the ignition but they said as long as its switching off it's fine and since they could find nothing else they said its a non issue.
They have pressure washed the mesh right behind the no. plate I guess the Condenser mesh.

Let's see if this resolves it.
Total Cost :Rs. 300 for a general checkup

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Any idea about cost of MAF sensor(located on the air filter) in Safari 2.2?
Looks like its gone kaput.
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Any idea about cost of MAF sensor(located on the air filter) in Safari 2.2?
Looks like its gone kaput.
99rpm's showing it as Rs.6265. Should be lesser than that at a TASS.

http://www.99rpm.com/tata/air-filter...fari-2008.html

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Old 27th February 2015, 15:49   #5833
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I am facing a strange problem with my beast, Coolant(around 100 ml) is getting leaked after couple of days in morning. I got this checked at TASS and they thoroughly checked radiator and every pipe. They found no leakage signs anywhere. Then there was no issues for couple of weeks. Today I found some coolant on floor dripping drop by drop again. But once I start car it stops dripping and then no leakage for next couple of days. Do any one of have any idea about this problem?
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I am facing a strange problem with my beast, Coolant(around 100 ml) is getting leaked after couple of days in morning. I got this checked at TASS and they thoroughly checked radiator and every pipe. They found no leakage signs anywhere. Then there was no issues for couple of weeks. Today I found some coolant on floor dripping drop by drop again. But once I start car it stops dripping and then no leakage for next couple of days. Do any one of have any idea about this problem?
I also had a similar problem. It was a simple case of replacement of a hose (black) from engine to radiator. Also replaced the water pump.
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I also had a similar problem. It was a simple case of replacement of a hose (black) from engine to radiator. Also replaced the water pump.
Is there any need to replace water pump. My car is 57000 kms old. I will get water pump changed at 100K. By the way what is cost of water pump
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