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Old 2nd March 2009, 11:45   #601
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Check the error. If its Rail pressure sensor related error, then advance congrats on the new injectors
Tsk, whenever I drive my safari, I try the 80+ Service Light test and to my surprise it failed every time. not sure if its good or bad.

I got the Hose Pipe replaced over the weekend, and reconfirmed with the service advisor, The Rail pressure sensor could be because of any malfunction. Hopefully it could be Hose Pipe in my case.

And, the sensors seems to be defective.. Temperature indicator in my case takes 7-8 Kms to rise upto 50 % level. And Fuel indicator is very moody.. sometimes take 10-15 mins or more to show the change in fuel level.
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On cold start the temp gauge rises to half level after 7/8kms even in my case. I think it takes time for it to heat up to that level.
So after hose pipe change, did you do the 80kmph test?
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And, the sensors seems to be defective.. Temperature indicator in my case takes 7-8 Kms to rise upto 50 % level. And Fuel indicator is very moody.. sometimes take 10-15 mins or more to show the change in fuel level.
Bull_twin nothing is defective , The mid mark is position of optimal temperature for Safari 2.2 engine. Any engine takes few Kms of drive to reach optimal temperature. And 1/2 mark is not a problem it is just calibration most manufacturers put optimal temp. at 1/4th on thier gauge.

About fuel indicator please check the time when your tank is about 3/4th full.
As this is simple float based device I have observed it rises faster when tank is more then 1/2 ( more buoyancy) and on empty tank takes longer.
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Tsk,
Yes, everytime I drive, I try the 80+test. Tried it after the hose pipoe change. Everrything seems normal.(Touch Wood )

I have already posted the error codes I got, it was told they were because of Hose Pipe and water in fuel(sedimtr).
I know every error code related to fuel / rail can not be linked with lose Hose pipe. But I blame the service station until I get the same code again.
Donít know why they have the error codes and the data with it, if it canít be used to diagnose the problem.
Do you remember the error codes you were getting? There can be various error codes for Common Rail..

Dont feel like .. as almost everything is getting changed in your horse, you will get better oupput..
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From my observations:

When my fuel guage shows half talk, its mostly 400kms covered.
600-610 when it shows the low fuel light IIRC.
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But am curious as to who discovered/invented the 80+ test?
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I did, it was the test which makes the service light come on in the vehicle.
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Took my ride to Concorde Motors today and showed them the 80kph/ 2500rpm test which makes the service light come on.

The ECU shows the P1258 Rail Pressure Sensor Error. High Fuel Low ?? something.

Sedimenter was cleaned and the fuel lines flushed. The problem still exists.

They were able to reproduce on some other TD car as well I was told.

Will know by today evening the status. However the Krrr... Jhatka, I'm not able to reproduce now, maybe due to the use of System-D till the previous refill. Car currently running on Normal Diesel.

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Took my ride to Concorde Motors today and showed them the 80kph/ 2500rpm test which makes the service light come on.

The ECU shows the P1258 Rail Pressure Sensor Error. High Fuel Low ?? something.

Sedimenter was cleaned and the fuel lines flushed. The problem still exists.

They were able to reproduce on some other TD car as well I was told.

Will know by today evening the status. However the Krrr... Jhatka, I'm not able to reproduce now, maybe due to the use of System-D till the previous refill. Car currently running on Normal Diesel.

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Maybe if someone can do this test on a new safari a couple of weeks old, i.e. do the 80km/hr 2500RPM test we can judge that it might be there on all safaris.
Just a thought!!!
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Maybe if someone can do this test on a new safari a couple of weeks old, i.e. do the 80km/hr 2500RPM test we can judge that it might be there on all safaris.
Just a thought!!!

Harjeev, not all Safari's are exhibiting this problem.

Update at 1800hrs. Cleaning all fuel lines did not help, including the recirculating fuel line. He raised it to Delphi who told him about the Hyderabad car facing this issue, and recommended Injector change.

The wait begins!

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Got a call from Concorde motors, with an update. They will be replacing the Injectors and the Fuel Pump today, with some assitance from Delphi.

fingers crossed.

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On cold start the temp gauge rises to half level after 7/8kms even in my case. I think it takes time for it to heat up to that level.
So after hose pipe change, did you do the 80kmph test?
My temp guage never crossed half mark.Temp guage changes with AC on--
7-8 km initial cold-start driving 25% (50% is half)
10-15 km 35-40% .
Even in bumper to bumper traffic from ghaziabad to gurgaon in june month ,temp guage was slightly below 50% .
Even above 100+ its always below half..
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Got a call from Concorde motors, with an update. They will be replacing the Injectors and the Fuel Pump today, with some assitance from Delphi.

fingers crossed.

cheers!
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Tick tock, Tick tock. Clock's ticking, Drama started, and still waiting for the Injectors.

Had to fill in a survey from Delphi. Expected time is 5 days from date of indent of spare. They've raised something called 'Vehicle On Road' indent for spares, whatever that means.
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... They've raised something called 'Vehicle On Road' indent for spares, whatever that means.
I believe that is the highest priority level for dispatching a part.

And is it 'Vehicle On Road' or 'Vehicle Off Road'?
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As far as I know, 'Vehicle On Road' means that the vehicle was toed and cant move at all and the Urgency is the Highest. Such parts are supposed to be sent by Air within 20 Hrs...

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