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Old 24th February 2016, 09:59   #6166
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My Safari 2010 has covered 76000. For some time now there has been some play in steering. You have to put extra effort to keep it in straight line. Front tyres are also wearing fast. Shown to a local mechanic, he says that suspension requires fixing or change. What kind of expenditure I am looking at. Can it be taken care outside of TASS or shall I stick to TASS?
Search in this thread for the approximate cost of the suspension work. You can get this done in any good FNG. This is the kind of work where you can see considerable difference of money spent on TASS and a FNG.
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My Safari 2010 has covered 76000. For some time now there has been some play in steering. You have to put extra effort to keep it in straight line. Front tyres are also wearing fast. Shown to a local mechanic, he says that suspension requires fixing or change. What kind of expenditure I am looking at. Can it be taken care outside of TASS or shall I stick to TASS?
I recently got my safaris complete suspension done outside TASS, front and rear including lathe work for the center pin genuine parts came to approx. 12000/rs approx. The only time my safari went to tass was for the first service and that's it TASS is a bunch of incompetent idiots IMO.
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I recently got my safaris complete suspension done outside TASS, front and rear including lathe work for the center pin genuine parts came to approx. 12000/rs approx. The only time my safari went to tass was for the first service and that's it TASS is a bunch of incompetent idiots IMO.
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Can you share the total cost, what all parts were changed, and the labor charges. Also share the name of the workshop where you got it done.
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Can you share the total cost, what all parts were changed, and the labor charges. Also share the name of the workshop where you got it done.
Total cost was only for parts will check again tommorow in detail what were the parts put in but front and back both were done including all bushes and tie rods truck was on metal jacks for 2 days but i dint pay more then 12 grand. I am
Not charged labour for my cars the service centre is on my property but i dont run it.
Had my complete clutch done 10 k kms back paid approx 15 grand that time for tass parts nothing for labour again. And 7 grand for timing belt and another belt plus tensioner pulley the 7 includes labour as a guy who works at tass came here and did it. The next thing on my list is the water pump but its good for another 10000 kms so will get it done later.
The trucks done about a 1.2 lakh kms touchwood all glitch free
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If someone is using OBD Dongle on Safari can you tell me what is the coolant temp you observer in City traffic ?

I am seeing values from 97 Deg to 100 - 103 Deg ..

PS : There is no problem as such , I never had an OBD dongle earlier so never
measured the needle was always in middle from day 1 of purchase.

Do I need to get the radiator flush and intercooler cleaning done ?
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If someone is using OBD Dongle on Safari can you tell me what is the coolant temp you observer in City traffic ?

I am seeing values from 97 Deg to 100 - 103 Deg ..

PS : There is no problem as such , I never had an OBD dongle earlier so never
measured the needle was always in middle from day 1 of purchase.

Do I need to get the radiator flush and intercooler cleaning done ?
Not on a Safari, but on a Xenon XT (with the same 2.2L engine), I've seen readings of around 95-97C. When asked, the service engineer said that it was normal. The temperature gauge would be at the usual half way mark and the fan would come on sometimes after switching off the engine.
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Search in this thread for the approximate cost of the suspension work. You can get this done in any good FNG. This is the kind of work where you can see considerable difference of money spent on TASS and a FNG.
Thanks Prowler, mechanic is quoting around 22000 to 23000 for complete front suspension job. I am planning to pay a visit to World of Service, Sector 63, Noida. Heard lot of good things about them in forum. Lets see..
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Not on a Safari, but on a Xenon XT (with the same 2.2L engine), I've seen readings of around 95-97C. When asked, the service engineer said that it was normal. The temperature gauge would be at the usual half way mark and the fan would come on sometimes after switching off the engine.
I am getting DTC P0119 and P0115 in OBD2 dongle surprisingly no check engine light.
Also today fan kept on running after switch off and coolant temp recorded was 101 deg

I think they have goofed up temp sensor wiring during the service.
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For all the safari/storme owners plagued with rattling doors, squeaks from various panels:
Please buy a silicone spray from any hardware store, and every 2 months wipe down all rubber door seals, the bonnet seals with the silicone spray, to ensure your rubber seals become soft and mallable. Doing so, ensures there is no squeak/rattle from your ride.
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I am getting DTC P0119 and P0115 in OBD2 dongle surprisingly no check engine light.
Also today fan kept on running after switch off and coolant temp recorded was 101 deg

I think they have goofed up temp sensor wiring during the service.
Any inputs what actually causes DTC P0119 and DTC P0115 simultaneously is it because of sensor /wiring or radiator cleaning and flush is required?
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Any inputs what actually causes DTC P0119 and DTC P0115 simultaneously is it because of sensor /wiring or radiator cleaning and flush is required?
This looks to be sensor fault. You have to get the sensors cleaned. If P0119 comes alone, then its often overheating issue. But with P0115 it means there is something wrong with voltage supply to sensor.
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Hello All,

I finished my coastal andhra trip yesterday. After few km's into the trip the famous "white smoke" had hit us through the storme a/c vents. I immediately brought vehicle to the side land and called up my SA. I explained him the story and while talking to him, even after switching off a/c fully there was a white clout with burning smell that flashed through a/c vents for 5-10 seconds.

My SA suggested me to wait for that white smoke to go off and position the a/c temperature knob between 3/4th of blue and end of blue section. Then, he asked me to switch the blower to 1. Also the internal air circulation was fully ON the whole time.

He suggested me to carry out the trip like this. He told me not to select for fresh air and full blue on the a/c knob. By doing that, according to him the fresh air while coming through the vents will not cause a short/smoke via the thermostat(god knows whether I quoted him exactly).

Today while handing over the car to another SA, he told me this is known issue. And his explanation is as follows : Even while the a/c is continuously ON, the condenser should auto cutoff after a while, this is not happening in my car. Hence the white smoke.

Could any current storme owners share their suggestion/advice on how do I proceed to make sure they fixed this issue? what to check and how to check.

Thanks.
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My Black Beast is 2008 model and has completed 99000 km. waiting for the 1,00,000 on the odo. got the suspension done at 88000 km when finally i decided i had to change my stock tyres. (yeah if you do the balancing, wheel rotation and alignment at 5000 km interval it can really last you that long. the stock tyres had enough muscle to go for another 10000 km but i dont like to push it that far). suspension job done at Chandigarh with TASS and took two days. They have done a pretty decent job and charged around 22000/-

Even after you get the suspension done, do the alignment, balancing and wheel rotation preferably every 5000 km. it is really worth it. I have yoko upsized tyres and still follow this, though i intentionally delay it to 8000 km during initial run. dont allow the car to pull to any side even if its controllable and check this at speeds above 100 kmph. the car should continue to have straight run stability and that is the key to prevent wear and tear of the tyres





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Hello All,

I finished my coastal andhra trip yesterday. After few km's into the trip the famous "white smoke" had hit us through the storme a/c vents. I immediately brought vehicle to the side land and called up my SA. I explained him the story and while talking to him, even after switching off a/c fully there was a white clout with burning smell that flashed through a/c vents for 5-10 seconds.
The 'white smoke' occurs when the humid air comes in contact with the ac evaporator. And depending upon the humidity, evaporator temperature and the fan speed, it can be mild or cause a thick white smoke. It doesn't cause any burning smell as nothing is burning. It will vanish on its own when it reaches some sort of equilibrium. It happens with Safari/storme and in many cars with high capacity AC units.

Just enjoy your cool ride.
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It doesn't cause any burning smell as nothing is burning. It will vanish on its own when it reaches some sort of equilibrium.
The burning smell with white clout appeared after the white smoke has gone. And I can 100% say that it smelled of a overheated coil/wire on the way.

I just got my storme back from checkups yesterday. The SA told me to check that issue in a 100KM run continuous run. He is very sure that if the issue won't resurface in that run, then we can assume it is solved.
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