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Old 22nd June 2009, 14:24   #841
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No, nothing fishy. I had availed of that about 6 months ago just to check what they do. They just come and do rudimentary checks: oil, coolant, battery, brake fluid, idling etc. They also ask you some questions regarding on-road satisfaction and take down your complaints / grouses. All with a smile and gift of a packet of tissues at the end of the visit. Must have learnt it from how the Japanese companies do CRM in Japan.
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Old 22nd June 2009, 18:53   #842
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Are you changing gears as per the recommended speed / RPM ? 2,3 and 4 can happen if it is driven like a petrol car this does not mean there is no problem but just a possibility.

For point 2 try using system -D with normal diesel.

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Thank you very much dadu, jkdas and amitk26 for your responses. Got the vehicle checked up last weekend. Here are the few issues and how they've been sorted out:

1) Engine dead during cold start

Earthing was not proper. Corrected the earthing and the problem is gone.

2) Engine - no response

Occasionally, when driving, there is no response from engine for 1-2 seconds. This happens at around 30 - 40 KMPH or 60 - 70 KMPH when the engine RPM is around 1500.

Could not be traced by TASS

3) Clutch shudder

Occasionally, there is lot of shuddering, when releasing the clutch, while changing gears. The engine has to be revved high to continue. Even after high revving, some times, the shuddering continues. It feels like there is clutch slippage.

Could not be traced by TASS


4) Engine rattling

After every start, for initial 10 minutes for driving, there is a rattling sound from the engine. This goes away automatically after 10 minutes.

Alternator and tension belt replaced under warranty
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Old 1st July 2009, 14:24   #843
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While giving my car for 30k service today found two issues and wanted to check with members here:

1) On the front doors ( both L & R ), at the top there are 3 rectangular holes on the door frame. are these open or blocked with rubber bushes ? In my car these are open on the front doors and blocked with rubber bushes in the rear doors.

I suspect these to be cause of excessive wind noise at highway speeds.


2) Found some rust spots/ specks on the body inside the front left door.

Given that the car is in Bangalore, where there isnt much rainfall and that the weather here does not induce rust, unlike say mumbai which is close to the seashore, I suspect that this is due to the daily wash - water not getting drained properly.

My understanding was that these days the cars are treated for rust protection to an extent during the paint process. So is this a common occurance in the Safari ?

Will a treatment like the 3M help in preventing rust formation ?

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Old 1st July 2009, 14:47   #844
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My responses below in bold

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1) On the front doors ( both L & R ), at the top there are 3 rectangular holes on the door frame. are these open or blocked with rubber bushes ?

They should be blocked with rubber bushes.

I suspect these to be cause of excessive wind noise at highway speeds.

High wind noise can be due to loose Door beading too, get that checked.

2) Found some rust spots/ specks on the body inside the front left door.

Again Issue number 1 seems to be culprit here as water might have seeped through the open holes. Get everything dried up/cleaned and yes 3M treatment is good, worth the price.
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Old 2nd July 2009, 13:38   #845
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While giving my car for 30k service today found two issues and wanted to check with members here:

1) On the front doors ( both L & R ), at the top there are 3 rectangular holes on the door frame. are these open or blocked with rubber bushes ? In my car these are open on the front doors and blocked with rubber bushes in the rear doors.

I suspect these to be cause of excessive wind noise at highway speeds.
Once I found one of them lying on the floor and found that 2 of them were missing, fixed them on all doors using rubber solution for once and all.

They are usually not available as spare.
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Once I found one of them lying on the floor and found that 2 of them were missing, fixed them on all doors using rubber solution for once and all.

They are usually not available as spare.
After reading your post I checked all my doors and found that many of those rubber bushes are missing. I didnt even realize till now that those exist and have fallen off. Are these not available as spare in TASS?

How did you close them with rubber solution? Can you explain pls? It will help me in fixing my Safari as well
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Can somebody post a picture of the same?
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Small clarification - the accelerator pedal has a electronic device attaced to it. I was expecting a cable for the pedal. How does the accelerator actually work? Is it only safari or do other cars also have this? - sorry if i sound stupid
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There is no cable. Its electronic and as you press the pedal, it sends signal to ECU
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There is no cable. Its electronic and as you press the pedal, it sends signal to ECU
Wow this sounds interesting. What other cars have this electronic pedal system?
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All cars classified as "Drive by wire" have this system. I think most modern diesels are drive by wire now, however owners of those vehicles are better sources of info
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Wow this sounds interesting. What other cars have this electronic pedal system?
The first generation Palio Diesel had it.
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Wow this sounds interesting. What other cars have this electronic pedal system?
many modern cars have this. all cars having cruise control must compulsarily have this.
its called the electronic throttle control & i have heard it is derived from the drive by wire system used in airplanes.

advantages are smoother & quicker throttle response, efficient use of fuel & its maintainence free.

in the same category, the innova & scorpio has this.
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in the same category, the innova & scorpio has this.
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at least dont do that please

None of these offer 4WD so cant be compared to Safari despite millions of other reasons.

And Innova is a people mover 90% of the times i see one.

Despite owning both of these will you honestly say a good thing about Safari someday ?
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Wow this sounds interesting. What other cars have this electronic pedal system?
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Raj

at least dont do that please

None of these offer 4WD so cant be compared to Safari despite millions of other reasons.

And Innova is a people mover 90% of the times i see one.

Despite owning both of these will you honestly say a good thing about Safari someday ?
what???

dude, chaxy was interested to know which other cars has ETC, hence my reply.

and btw, what has ETC got to do with 4x4 or any car being a people mover? do not worry, i am not comparing your beloved safari to any car here! just take some time to read my post & understand it please. thanks.

and about saying some good things about the safari, i have said it openly on the forum many times, if you take some time to notice it. but i cant go all ga-ga over it.

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