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Old 8th October 2009, 17:07   #1276
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Can anyone help me out here???Is anyone having leaky left rear doors i tried to get them fixed thrice at the tasss they even changed the beading but after two days the problem re occurs and also about the ecu upgrade the tass people doesnt have any idea about it they say they have not got any information about it.....how should i go about it??
How was the leak identified ? You mean air leakage from left rear door ?
Was it observed when all windows are closed and at what speed.

I observed false alarm once the front window was open and it was just reflected air from rear door making noise.
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Can anyone help me out here???Is anyone having leaky left rear doors i tried to get them fixed thrice at the tasss they even changed the beading but after two days the problem re occurs and also about the ecu upgrade the tass people doesnt have any idea about it they say they have not got any information about it.....how should i go about it??
Do you mean water leakage? My car has water leakage for quite some time now, I found it out while fixing the ICE. The entire carpet was wet and I didnt find it due the rubber mats. I got it checked with the T.A.S.S last month and found out that water was getting inside through the firewall. The security system installation was not proper and water was dripping through the wire.

Rectified the firewall leakage issue last night, but I still think it is not only the culprit. May be window alignment, window glass or under body. Any idea guys?
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Old 8th October 2009, 21:06   #1278
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Default HMMMMM sound coming from engine

Got my air filter changed, and after driving for about 100kms, am hearing a new "hmmmmmmm" sound.

In 2nd and 3rd gear, accelerate to about 2k rpm, press clutch and coast. there is a hmmmmm sound like some thing is spinning fast inspite of engine speed coming down. goes away when I press the brake.

I could suspect two things:
1) Turbo whine
2) Wheel bearing

Any thoughts / suggestions ?

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Old 8th October 2009, 21:41   #1279
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Even i noticed this phenomenon.Smoke could be due to increase of fuelling without sufficient amount of air.
ie the fuel is running "Rich" for a brief amount of time.
It could also mean that Safari by design is not getting enough air and by the time the ecu comes to know of this, it reduces the fuelling a bit.The Reduced boost in the new map could be the culprit.It could also mean that E.G.R solenoid valve and pump combo not working fine.
In my case shifting from Shell to IOC diesel reduced smoking.
DIY:Try cleaning the air filter.Change your diesel brand.Diesel being a mixture of hydrocarbons having chains of carbon/hydrogen ranging from 12 to 15 carbon atoms, the C to H ratio might vary.(Think this is called stochiometric something).So try changing your diesel which is the easiest thing to vary.


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Sure, that is what would happen at *any* steady RPM. But only on acceleration? Happens only for the duration of the acceleration - as soon as one levels off, the smoke is gone!
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Got my air filter changed, and after driving for about 100kms, am hearing a new "hmmmmmmm" sound.

In 2nd and 3rd gear, accelerate to about 2k rpm, press clutch and coast. there is a hmmmmm sound like some thing is spinning fast inspite of engine speed coming down. goes away when I press the brake.

I could suspect two things:
1) Turbo whine
2) Wheel bearing

Any thoughts / suggestions ?

thanks
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Caliper noise ?? There is a thread on caliper pins wearing out in Maruti somewhere.
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Old 9th October 2009, 12:03   #1281
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Will be at Mysore road service center tomorrow morning at 9am for second service. Camping out there with the vehicle. Anyone else heading there tomorrow? (Concord TASS)
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Old 9th October 2009, 12:33   #1282
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4x4 owners in particular
do drive at around 20kmph in second gear(or maybe higher), then press clutch, and switch to first, do not leave clutch, let her coast at 20kmph approx in first gear with clutch pressed.
Do you hear a whini sound like some bearing?
I am getting this, and the workshop people have no idea, with hints like, "all 4x4s have it".

Second problem, when I press clutch to engage 4x4 low, sometimes the clutch return is sluggish, I lift my foot, and the clutch comes up a split second later. No issue in 4x2 gear changing, only in 4x2

I checked online and it says air in system.
Now I think safari 4x4 will have dual clutch, one for main drive, and one for low ratio. Is it possible, that in the hydraulic system of 4x4, there is dirt or air?
Again service center has no idea.

After diwali weekend, I think I will need a trip to Autolinks Gurgaon, because it seems they are the only guys who know 4x4
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Tsk:

Do you hear this sound only in 1st or even when coasting at 20Km in Second with the clutch pedal pressed?

My suspicion is that your front electric free wheeling hubs are locked and hence the front drive shaft is rotating with the front wheel. Please have the service center lift up the front of the vehicle on a jacks and rotate both the front wheels separately and see if the other wheel turns also. If it does it means that one or both of your hub locks are engaged and haven't disengaged. I recall your front hub lock gears had sheared a while back and replaced under warranty so not sure if the dealership put everything back together for the free wheeling hubs. This is the only thing that I can think off.

There is no dual clutch. The low ration is purely another gear in the Transfer Case. I don't think there is ay hydraulics in the 4x4 system. The 4x4 H and Low are engaged with an electric motor.
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Thanks! I will get this checked. Normally when cruising in 4x4 low, I hear a slight whine.
However after disengaging 4x4, this whine is present, but when I reverse and unlock the hubs, the whine goes away.
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Got my air filter changed, and after driving for about 100kms, am hearing a new "hmmmmmmm" sound.

In 2nd and 3rd gear, accelerate to about 2k rpm, press clutch and coast. there is a hmmmmm sound like some thing is spinning fast inspite of engine speed coming down. goes away when I press the brake.

I could suspect two things:
1) Turbo whine
2) Wheel bearing

Any thoughts / suggestions ?

thanks
Srini

It was the wheel bearing that was thinking of going kaput. changed under ext warranty. Engine Oil topped up.

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Even i noticed this phenomenon.Smoke could be due to increase of fuelling without sufficient amount of air.
ie the fuel is running "Rich" for a brief amount of time.
It could also mean that Safari by design is not getting enough air and by the time the ecu comes to know of this, it reduces the fuelling a bit.The Reduced boost in the new map could be the culprit.It could also mean that E.G.R solenoid valve and pump combo not working fine.
In my case shifting from Shell to IOC diesel reduced smoking.
DIY:Try cleaning the air filter.Change your diesel brand.Diesel being a mixture of hydrocarbons having chains of carbon/hydrogen ranging from 12 to 15 carbon atoms, the C to H ratio might vary.(Think this is called stochiometric something).So try changing your diesel which is the easiest thing to vary.
2 things helped reduce black smoke under acceleration for me:
- use IOC diesel. Dont use Shell.
- Change of Air Filter.

Under *hard* acceleration I still see black smoke, but it goes away quickly.

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It was the wheel bearing that was thinking of going kaput. changed under ext warranty.
Srini, more details please. Which wheel, fronts or rears would help and pics if at all
BTW, what did workshop guys do to identify the wheel bearing ?
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Heya friends, I am facing some problem in my safari, on full tilt of the steering, I sometimes hear a "tak" sound under the hood. Also, when I press the clutch it also does the same sound "tak", but both are somtimes. I asked Service mechanic he said it is something with the design of the clutch so it is normal.

Is it so?
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Srini, more details please. Which wheel, fronts or rears would help and pics if at all
BTW, what did workshop guys do to identify the wheel bearing ?
Front right wheel. Sorry no pics.

Took the SA for a test drive, and asked him to do the same. Accelerate, press clutch, there is a very audible humming sound coming from the front right side.

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One mmore thing, in Central locking manual of the Safari, it says that alarmed will be triggered if any of the door is open while you press the lock push button on remot ekey. But it does not happen on my car. The door lock-knob gets locked but there is no horn honking or triggered alarm, m I missing anything?
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Heya friends, I am facing some problem in my safari, on full tilt of the steering, I sometimes hear a "tak" sound under the hood. Also, when I press the clutch it also does the same sound "tak", but both are somtimes. I asked Service mechanic he said it is something with the design of the clutch so it is normal.

Is it so?
Ok the "sometimes" is when car is driven for sometime. Its like clutch gets heat-up or something.
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