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Old 24th September 2008, 01:52   #16
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I would suggest that before getting items like an aftermarket air filter, the first goal would be to get your car's performance back to stock levels. Once that baseline is established, only then will items like the aftermarket air filter be nice to have.


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Spark plugs- Will get them changed
Decent mainstream plugs from Bosch will do. You dont need fancy plugs.


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And is it required to do a Throttle Body cleaning?
From a performance PoV, yes. And be sure to have the TB cleaned manually by disassembling it - this is more effective than any magic sprays they might have.
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Old 24th September 2008, 13:13   #17
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1. Air Filter change [any good of going for K&N or Green?
Your answer lies here

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I would suggest that before getting items like an aftermarket air filter, the first goal would be to get your car's performance back to stock levels.
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3. Using synthetic oil and supposed to run well for 40k. Do I need to change? Will check the oil anyway.
I though the recommended time intervals was between 6-8k for synthetic oil. So get that too changed.

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And the last but not the least - Check the Clutch - but for this I'll need to keep the car with the mechanic for two days, right?
Yes , its worth the hassle of leaving it there. Give them time to do it properly, you rush thru it and a shoddy job is guaranteed.

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And is it required to do a Throttle Body cleaning?
Advisable coz earlier I had faced a similar issue of flat spots post my 15k service and a throttle body cleaning job took care of it.

The rest(checklist) remains the same as mentioned by you.


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From a performance PoV, yes. And be sure to have the TB cleaned manually by disassembling it - this is more effective than any magic sprays they might have.
Thats straight from the horses mouth, talks from experience .Get it done !! Good luck ..
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Old 24th September 2008, 13:34   #18
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@ kaushik ,
the synthetic oils do not last for 40k kms. the max life is 10k and recommended change is after 6-8k kms. if the oil lasted for 40 k kms the whole world would have been using only synthetic oil
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1) Replace stock air filter at 10k or get a "replacement filter" from K&N which can be plonked in straight, without any mods. You can clean it every 5 to 8 k intervals also.

I personally wouldnt recommend universal filters, since they can screw up more, rather than help.

2) Replace synthetic engine oil even if its Mobil 1 at 10 - 12 k mark max (8-10 k is safe), especially if you drive in city. The add which says service interval of 1 lakh km is misleading.

3) Regular NGK's will do fine, replace at 20 k (must), clean every 5k if possible or at 10 k kms.

4) TB cleaning at 20k kms is a good idea.

5) Get suspension bolts and nuts tightened

6) Do a brake cleaning at 15 to 20 k kms interval

7) Clutch as them to check, but i doubt if its an issue in this case.

8) Get alignment done and wheels rotated, including the spare. Wheel balance the front 2 tyres atleast, after rotation.

Last but not least, do it at a good dealer A.S.S, they do a better job with good parts and without compromising much. You will have a slightly higher tab but really worth it, esp if you are someone who believes in longer service interval.

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Ok guys, help me out,
Last service was done at 19k on odo and following things were changed,
1.Air Filter
2.Engine Oil (Mobil1 synthetic)
3. Spark Plugs [NGK-regular ones]
4. TB cleaning
5. Brake Bleeding
6.other small things..

Now that the car has ran for 15k more (with an intermittent service after 26k in odo but nothing was changed in this service) and due for a service. I'll need to keep a checklist of following things specifically. Please add anything else that I need to take care of,
1. Air Filter change [any good of going for K&N or Green? ]
2. Spark plugs- Will get them changed.[and Riju, yes I did few times felt the exhaust smells like unburnt fuel]
3. Using synthetic oil and supposed to run well for 40k. Do I need to change? Will check the oil anyway.
4. Tappet clearance
And the last but not the least - Check the Clutch - but for this I'll need to keep the car with the mechanic for two days, right?
And is it required to do a Throttle Body cleaning?

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Kaushik

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Old 24th September 2008, 17:56   #20
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Well I was referring to this article, http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modify...neral-oil.html (ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil)

Anyway, now its time to get it changed then. Currently using 0w40 so better to stick to it I guess?

Just seen the post, thanks Jaggu for the detailed list. So this is gonna be a major service. This saturday is booked for it then.
Any recommended place for servicing down South Bangalore?

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Old 24th September 2008, 21:07   #21
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Any recommended place for servicing down South Bangalore?
Not very familiar with that side, though heard some good reviews about Mandovi?? (IIRC), another piece of advice, avoid saturdays if you can. They will be overloaded with cars and might hurry/miss jobs, middle of the week is always better
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Kaushik,

I'm in BLR South, yet I make it a point to leave my Swift at RNS Yeshwantpur since I believe that the commute is worth it. They do a fantastic job. Besides a top man there knows quite a few TBHPians
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Thanks Mag, but Yeshwantpur will be quite far away from where I stay. Won't Suraksha will do a good job? Yet to find it out where it is although AKRoy has sent the address once. I used to give my car for servicing at Smarts Cars when I stayed in Kaggadasapura but that place also now bit too far.
Another question, need to buy synthetic oil and not all service centers seems to keep them and they had to get it from somewhere separately. Any place where I can buy myself, Mobil1 0w40? Service centers won't mind if I get the Oil myself, right?
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Thanks Mag, but Yeshwantpur will be quite far away from where I stay. Won't Suraksha will do a good job? Yet to find it out where it is although AKRoy has sent the address once.
Suraksha has got a good rating from quite a few TBHPians. You would be able to locate it on Hosur Road, after the Mahindra showroom, while coming from Silk Board. It would be on your right hand side. Lokesh is the person you should meet there. Abhi's (Akroy) reference can be used.
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My Baleno has similar symptoms. Loss of power in second gear. The car doesnt judder as such, but I have noticed the clutch pedal judders. Odo reading is 50k.
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Hey Guys,
What about the Gear oil? I guess it's also need to be changed by this time?
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Yepp.. They can check the quality of the gear oil and replace it if necessary. Also, make sure they some additive called Bardhal.
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If gear oil is close to 20k kms replace it
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Actually gear shifting is slightly bit notchy nowadays, not that smooth like it was before. And it's 15k since last change. Will get that changed too.
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Dropped the car for servicing at Bimal, Bennerghatta road. I was using them for small things before and found them to be ok and they are closer to my place. It's not like the big service center and here normally I go along with the car to see the work and the stuff is quite friendly till now. I hope they'll do a good job also, keeping my fingers crossed.

Following things I told them to check,
1. Change the spark plug -NGK
2. Change the Air filter
3. Change the Gear Oil, they said they'll use Castrol gear oil. How is it ? Is Elf better?
4. Brake bleeding and brake shoe for rear wheels to change(but they told me that they'll check if it's required and then only they'll change)
5. Clutch check (they test drove the car and said there doesn't seem to be any problem with the car)
6. Suspension check

7. Engine Oil replacement is currently at halt as I'm waiting for the Oil to reach me.
They told me that engine de-carbonization is also needed, is it needed ? Haven't done de-carb of engine yet. I've told them about throttle body cleaning also and they told me that they'll do De-carb, TB cleaning when they'll do the engine oil change.

Regards,
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