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Old 17th November 2008, 17:51   #16
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The Stebel Nautilus costs between 800-850 here..
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Old 27th April 2009, 13:14   #17
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while buying i had inquired with the horn repair wala. he said that they can be repaired if they get damaged. he just said that dont let water get inside the horns. so i have mounted them inverted.
IMHO The installation diagram for the Nautilus air horn is on the box-it needs to mounted ahead of the front wheels horizontally-might want to check that out.
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be careful not to put more than 2-3 drops of oil , excess oil will block the trumpets, if you have a air horn compressor which has a oil filler plug.( esp the older ones)

the newer ones may not come with the oil filler plug , for such ones you have to dismanlte the unit clean the insides/ lubricate , also check the carbon brushes of the electic motor while you are at it.

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be careful not to put more than 2-3 drops of oil , excess oil will block the trumpets, if you have a air horn compressor which has a oil filler plug.( esp the older ones)

the newer ones may not come with the oil filler plug , for such ones you have to dismanlte the unit clean the insides/ lubricate , also check the carbon brushes of the electic motor while you are at it.
The horn specialist removed for Stebel Nautilus to add oil-guess he added too much-i am not getting 139db sound from the horn-sounds like someone's choking it.How can you remove the excess oil?Any ideas will be appreciated.
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Old 27th April 2009, 14:49   #20
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where exactly to add oil from. should i invert it and put oil through the trumphets?
the horn was blowing very well. i was at a speed of around 100 kmph when i blew the horn 2-3 times. the 1st and 2nd continuous honk was alright but the 3rd one was very weak. later i tried many times, its honking but only to its half potential
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Old 27th April 2009, 15:23   #21
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where exactly to add oil from. should i invert it and put oil through the trumphets?
the horn was blowing very well. i was at a speed of around 100 kmph when i blew the horn 2-3 times. the 1st and 2nd continuous honk was alright but the 3rd one was very weak. later i tried many times, its honking but only to its half potential
invert what?what is "IT"?
NO WAY! putting oil into the trumpet would be plain stupidity, there is no way for the oil to reach the the pump/compressor as the oil cannot move against the flow of the air and you are risking screwing up the trumpets as the oil may attract dirt/dust and block the trumpet.the trumpets dont need lubrication , the pump/compressor needs lubrication.
like i said , first acertain whether or not your set has an oil filler plug, if not it has to dismantled for lubrication.

@wolffe- there is no way of removing the excess oil , the only way oil will come out is thru the trumpets, dont put anything from the open end of the trumpet trying to clean them as you might damage the diapharm, if you find traces of oil on the mouth of the trumpet, then you can be sure the horn guy put excess oil , if not something else is the problem.

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@gd1418

dude, i have a stebel nautilus in my swift, its installed inside the engine bay right next to the brake booster, (that is the space usually occupied by the ABS module in the VDi ABS version of diesel swift but my car is LDi,) i dint want the horn to be installed behind the front bumper for it will be washed in slush.

Now since you faced this problem and are now done with it, can you at least post a picture of the horn and tell us where the OIL goes in to the horn so that i can regularly oil it for it to last longer?

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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...tml#post742209 (Power Horns!)

this is the link to the pics of my stebel Nautilus i posted earlier in the power horns thread.

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Stebel nautilus can NOT BE REPAIRED without some extensive changes.

I completely second what siddartha has stated above!

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like i said , first acertain whether or not your set has an oil filler plug, if not it has to dismantled for lubrication.
There is no oil filler plug in the Nautilus. They can not even be dismantled since it's a sealed unit.

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Stebel nautilus can NOT BE REPAIRED without some extensive changes.

I completely second what siddartha has stated above!



There is no oil filler plug in the Nautilus. They can not even be dismantled since it's a sealed unit.
I disagree-here are pics of me disassembling the Nautilus and showing where to fill the oil.It's easy.
Disclaimer:If it ain't broke-don't try to fix it.My Nautilus conked so I'm trying my luck at making it work.
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I disagree-here are pics of me disassembling the Nautilus and showing where to fill the oil.It's easy.
Disclaimer:If it ain't broke-don't try to fix it.My Nautilus conked so I'm trying my luck at making it work.
hey nice illustration. thank god my nautilus came back to life. it was a shear luck for me. i tried to tilt the horn to check whether its dirty and from where i can put the oil.in this process the wire came off. i hurriedly put back the wire and the greatest thing was it started blowing to its full potential.

i was browsing through the stebel website. dint find any way or support for the maintainance of the horn.

how did u find out that the hole in which you are putting the oil is supposed to be for lubrication. did u have any manual for the same?
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how did u find out that the hole in which you are putting the oil is supposed to be for lubrication. did u have any manual for the same?
Nope no manual-watched the horn specialist take the motor and trumpet apart.Infact I took the entire motor apart this morning-cleaned it and fitted it back-yet to check if it works(Took pics of those as well-but didn't want anyone anyone else ripping apart their horns-inspired my me.
Remember watching my Dad servicing an air horn motor almost 10 years ago.
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Nope no manual-watched the horn specialist take the motor and trumpet apart.Infact I took the entire motor apart this morning-cleaned it and fitted it back-yet to check if it works(Took pics of those as well-but didn't want anyone anyone else ripping apart their horns-inspired my me.
Remember watching my Dad servicing an air horn motor almost 10 years ago.
please post the pics. let us atleast see what lies behind the trumphet lines
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please post the pics. let us atleast see what lies behind the trumphet lines
Amit_mechengg-here goes.

If the gurus could name each part and what it does-very helpful.
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there is a rotor, winding, brushes and magnets. however i couldnt guess what path the oil follows when u put it through the hole specified in your earlier post.
is your horn working now? did u check. clean the inside well as you have already opened it. you can use zorik spray to clean. i dont see any major component that can fail except the coil burning out or the brushes wearing out.
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there is a rotor, winding, brushes and magnets. however i couldnt guess what path the oil follows when u put it through the hole specified in your earlier post.
is your horn working now? did u check. clean the inside well as you have already opened it. you can use zorik spray to clean. i dont see any major component that can fail except the coil burning out or the brushes wearing out.
Amit-the oil stays in the top cap-its sealed.The horn did work for 10 mins-varied between soft and loud and then went kaput.I'm taking it to the horn repair guys today to have it checked.In my view the motor works fine-something wrong with the trumpet.
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