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Old 14th November 2008, 01:27   #1
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my santro has run around 65000kms till date. i gave it for routine servicing yesterday to a hyundai A**.

the service guy said that since the hyundai recommends changing of timing belt between 60000kms and 80000kms i can run the original factory fitted belt till another service around 65000-68000kms. but iuse in my car daily with running of around 150-200kms.

second he showed me under the car that there is very little power steering fuild leakage. he said that since my santro xing 2004 model has a "sona steering" which is discountinued by hyundai, they cant just change the power steering seal and i will have to get the whole steering changed to a new one. so i should keep using the current steering till i can use the leak dosent get major.

so i want to ask if i should wait for the next service or get my timing belt and steering changed right now??? and can a after market seal work with the steering i have in my car??
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Just check with another A** about the seal. I doubt abt this. I had this problem in my santro which was 2000 model and they had all parts one year ago !
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Old 14th November 2008, 11:07   #3
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Try and look at spare parts shops for steering parts. Sona Steering is a major company and even if Hyundai is not using their parts any longer, I am sure they have aftermarket supplies.
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Old 14th November 2008, 13:11   #4
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I had the timing belt changed for my santro 2003 model after it did 65000kms. Infact I felt the need to change it only after the peculiar screetching sound came when cranking the engine or starting off in the 1st gear.

IMO as soon as the sound starts coming you should go in for the change as the rubber gets brittle hence the sound.
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even ive read somewhere that car manufacturers are required to provide spare pars to cars till 10 years after discontinuing a specific model and in this case the santro is still in production ans soo many of them on road hyundai must have some back up.

well i'll take it to some other A.S.S. and see what they say.
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I'd feel comfortably changing the timing belt anywhere between 65 - 70K on a Santro. Please have it replaced with a new one right away.

WRT the power steering seal : You will get solutions by the dozen in the aftermarket. Won't be too difficult to source a seal. Changing the entire assembly for one is ridiculous and I am surprised that the advisor actually suggested that.

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my santro has run around 65000kms till date. i gave it for routine servicing yesterday to a hyundai A**.

the service guy said that since the hyundai recommends changing of timing belt between 60000kms and 80000kms i can run the original factory fitted belt till another service around 65000-68000kms. but iuse in my car daily with running of around 150-200kms.

second he showed me under the car that there is very little power steering fuild leakage. he said that since my santro xing 2004 model has a "sona steering" which is discountinued by hyundai, they cant just change the power steering seal and i will have to get the whole steering changed to a new one. so i should keep using the current steering till i can use the leak dosent get major.

so i want to ask if i should wait for the next service or get my timing belt and steering changed right now??? and can a after market seal work with the steering i have in my car??
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You are in delhi right, that gives you a million options. get it checked ouside of Autorised SS.
Santo has hydraulic steering, leakage can be from anywhere, even from the resevour bottle. Its ridiculous that hyundai people suggested to change the whole system.
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Hi Guys,
I m having a Santro Xing. Few months back, I took off the Stock steering and replaced with a smaller, F1 Sports edition steering wheel. (Just like a momo)
I have installed it with Hub.
Now after i have fitted it, the steering has become more hard (Read. as if non power steering).
Can you tell me why is this problem?
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changing the streeing wheel does not make it hard. Its something else.

check oil level, any sign of leakage.

PS: does it make any kind of sound.
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changing the streeing wheel does not make it hard. Its something else.

check oil level, any sign of leakage.

PS: does it make any kind of sound.
I have checked the oil level and its correct. no signs of leakage either.. what should I do more to diagonse this problem?
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well it depends on how you look at it. some people get their issues fixed just when they appear and some wait for the last moment.

not sure about the timing belt but the power steering is something which can create major issues if not attended to in the initial stage. first i would suggest ask some other mechanics and santro owners if that is true.
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Dad's santro has started making a screeching sound when started so guess it's time for a timing belt change. Any idea how much does it cost to replace the same at an authorized centre?
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^^ this is a symptom of a slipping water pump/ac belt ; please have it replaced.

Replacement plus labour should be less than INR600 if done at a private garage.
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I'd feel comfortably changing the timing belt anywhere between 65 - 70K on a Santro. Please have it replaced with a new one right away.
Sorry to bump up an old thread.. but here's something from the manual
For a Santro:
Mandatory replacement of camshaft timing belt @ 80 K km or multiples thereof.
Under special conditions (see list below) - replace the timing belt @ 60 K km or multiples thereof.
a) Driving in areas using salt or other corrosive materials or in very cold weather
b) Driving in sandy areas
c) More than 50% driving in heavy city traffic during hot weather above 42șC
d) Driving in mountainous areas.
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Old 11th April 2014, 18:57   #15
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Dear friends
My Santro 2003 AT steering had become quite hard.
Power steering fluid levels were okay when I checked but the colour was almost light red/brown after years of use. Also there used to be the faintest of noise from the steering when turning the wheel. Noise can best be described as two metal parts lightly rubbing against each other.

I went to the FNG (Friendly Neighborhood Garage (FNG) - Imtiaz & Ayub (New Delhi))today, and asked him to change the power steering fluid.

As expected the steering feels a little easier to turn, but it's not the near zero effort feeling that I used to get when the car was newer.
The FNG feels this is likely due to worn out shocker bearing or possibly a jammed shocker ball joint.
Are there any other likely causes?

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