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Old 24th May 2005, 15:01   #31
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Technocrat,

Both Esteem and Baleno feature HPS and NOT EPS. Not sure about Scorpio. OHC has HPS and NHC has EPS.

About the Baleno, from http://baleno.marutiudyog.com/tech_chassis_main.asp

Steering: Rack and pinion with hydraulic power assistance

Brakes
Type: Vacuum assisted hydraulic
Front: Ventilated Disc
Rear: Drum, leading / trailing

Suspension
Front:Mc Pherson strut & coil spring with an L shaped lower arm and anti roll bar
Rear:Mc Pherson strut & coil spring with parallel link arrangement

Tyres:165/80R13

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Old 24th May 2005, 16:31   #32
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Oh, somehow I always thought that the Baleno had EPS.

Anyways, Thanks for correcting me
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What about Fiat Cars? Are they HPS or EPS?
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What about Fiat Cars? Are they HPS or EPS?
Palio and Petra have HPS.
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Is it possible to fit power steering on a non-PS car ?
And if so, would the cost be prohibitive ?
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Is it possible to fit power steering on a non-PS car ?
And if so, would the cost be prohibitive ?
If you search the archives on the indica-users Yahoogroup, you'll find that one member has retrofitted power steering on his 1999 V1 DLE.

The archives are currently down but I'll try and get the person's email address for you. As well as the other details.

This member is a 71 year old gentleman who "indulged" himself with power steering recently. Remember, when he bought his DLE, the only model with power steering was the DLX!

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I find on my fathers ALTo ( vx 1.1) the EPS is bit less sensitive in 0 to 15 deg area. e.g. when driving on highway when you do gradual lane change the EPS does not return to centre zero but you have to bring it back. I was driving a Toyota Carina ealier with EPS and never noticed this. I felt the same problem during swift test ride although the EPS is shifted from Engine bay to steering rack.

anybody has similar experience
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Very nicely put

Btw baleno was the 1st maruti car to have EPS. It came later in the Wagon R & the Alto Vxi

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the euro-2 zen vxi in 2000 was the first maruti to have mpfi as well as eps.

baleno and the esteem have hydraulic PS.

the EPS in the maruti small cars cut off above 60kph.
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Yeah I came to know about that later. Btw if i am not wrong all PS cuts of at a specific speed In MUL cars, its 60kph
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Btw if i am not wrong all PS cuts of at a specific speed In MUL cars, its 60kph
Is that so? I am thinking otherwise now. In fact, I thought the same as you and started this thread. If it gets cut off at 60 kmph, the driver is bound to get confused (as my friend puts his experience). It has to be gradual.
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I believe at 60 Kph the steering is smooth enough to notice whether PS is off or on. yeah it must be gradual but that happens only in EPS & not in HPS.
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If you can read betwen the lines - driving with EPS is like wearing a rubber suit - some of the fun but a direct loss in sensitivity. Nothing like direct contact
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LOL ajmat.

But frankly speaking I have felt otherwise I get more responce from the MY Alto's EPS than for any HPS that I have used(Esteem, Santro)

I'll give an example, I had this habit of eazing the grip on the steering wheel after a turn to resume to staright position(very easy & convenient in no PS cars) I missed this feeling in HPS cars but surprisingly I get this in my Alto's EPS

Anybody else observed this ??
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hmm.. the EPS of my wagonR is supposed to be speed sensitive.. hard at higher speeds and light at lower speeds.. its so smooth, that its actually called by many as the BEST power steering in any Indian car. Hyraulic power steering i think has constant sensitivity.. so had you been taking that turn at 80 (just kidding..) imagine what would have happened with HPS...
All power steering be it electric or hydraulic are weighted. As the car gets to higher speeds, the effort for turning the wheels gets lesser. Hence its built into the power steering that max force is exerted at stand still. There is no way that a hydraulic steering will react in an odd way at say 80kmph else we wud have heavy vehicles like volvos involved in crashes at every turn on the highways

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LOL ajmat.

But frankly speaking I have felt otherwise I get more responce from the MY Alto's EPS than for any HPS that I have used(Esteem, Santro)

I'll give an example, I had this habit of eazing the grip on the steering wheel after a turn to resume to staright position(very easy & convenient in no PS cars) I missed this feeling in HPS cars but surprisingly I get this in my Alto's EPS

Anybody else observed this ??
Yes, thats because the alto's power steering cuts off at speeds greater than 20kmph. After that the ps is like manual steering.
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