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Old 20th January 2009, 12:43   #16
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otherwise your driving profile does not require a 4x4.
Dadu, he seems to be Delhi based and does go to the hills for holidays!
What better profile to go for a 4X4?!!
Soon, he might want to make a winter trip to Manali & Solang; what then?!
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Dadu, he seems to be Delhi based and does go to the hills for holidays!
What better profile to go for a 4X4?!!
Soon, he might want to make a winter trip to Manali & Solang; what then?!
Yes, he might want to try it on the metalled roads to Manali, Solang and even Rohtang, btw most taxi's you might hire to even leh are not 4x4
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Yes, he might want to try it on the metalled roads to Manali, Solang and even Rohtang, btw most taxi's you might hire to even leh are not 4x4
Agree. 4X4 are a different ball game all together.

No roads required...
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... btw most taxi's you might hire to even leh are not 4x4
LOL, even the 'jeeps' advertized by tour operators are almost always Sumos and Qualises!
The foreign tourists are the ones who get conned by this the most! They believe they have hired the 'right' vehicle!
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My friend,

Read this thread in detail and make your choice. No better thread than this one.

If after reading this thread, your heart wants a 4x4 (and you can afford it) then go for it.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ri-ex-4x2.html (Booked Safari EX 4x2)

else...
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btw most taxi's you might hire to even leh are not 4x4
Very true which is why they rely (mostly) on sheer momentum & (some) driving skills to negotiate the treacherous terrain.

Me, I'm just bone lazy & would rather put it in 4L & chug along
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Me, I'm just bone lazy & would rather put it in 4L & chug along
Does that make me bone lazy too?!
That is exactly what I do, and for those few moments, be they 1% of my total usage, I bless myself for having being brilliant enough to go in for the 4X4!
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4x4 is the way to go, if you have money for it.
Almost 2 years I'm using lx 4x2, but there are some instances when I repented for not buying 4x4. For me almost 99% travelled on proper roads but that remaining 1% matters when you are holidaying. Now pick your choice mate.
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hi all,
we are still arguing to a point where half are supporting 4x4 and half 4x2.
i read about affordability in this debate. it not about affordability, buying a car sensibly.

What is it a 4x4 can do which 4x2 cant ?
if we are able to list out then it will be easy for me to decide.
if 4x4 is really worth it on a tata safari - then even i can go for vx 4x4 as it has ABS too.

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hi all,
we are still arguing to a point where half are supporting 4x4 and half 4x2.
i read about affordability in this debate. it not about affordability, buying a car sensibly.

What is it a 4x4 can do which 4x2 cant ?
if we are able to list out then it will be easy for me to decide.

cheers
How can somebody list this down. There are many people who can negotiate terrains in 4x2 which a lousy driver will not be able to do in a 4x4. No matter what people advice, the choice is yours. Offroading is an art that comes with experience. No body can spoonfeed that. If you love the idea offroading and want to do in future you should go for a 4x4. If you want a highway mile muncher go for 4x2 or even look at Innova.
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we are still arguing to a point where half are supporting 4x4 and half 4x2.
i read about affordability in this debate. it not about affordability, buying a car sensibly.
v&v, if HALF here are supporting 4X4, you cannot find a more resounding endorsement, considering that only 5% or so buy 4X4!! The rest are endorsing because they realize the mistake they made!
If this still doesn't help, simply buy the 4X2 and be done with it!
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One question to al the 4x4 owners...

Does FE vary from the 4x2 vehicle? When you dont engage the 4x4, I mean.
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One question to al the 4x4 owners...

Does FE vary from the 4x2 vehicle? When you dont engage the 4x4, I mean.
For most of the 4X4 owners this question is impossible to answer!
Unless a 4X4 owner happens to also have a non-4X4 and has personally driven BOTH vehicles over extended periods and carefully calculated the FE for each!
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One question to al the 4x4 owners...

Does FE vary from the 4x2 vehicle? When you dont engage the 4x4, I mean.
Unless, 4x4 is engaged the vehicle will move on 2wd, so how can this affect fuel efficiency?
Infact, Tsk reportedly achieved one of the highest fuel efficiencies ( about 17km/ltr) for his 4x4 EX last month!
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...Does FE vary from the 4x2 vehicle? When you dont engage the 4x4...
Even if you do not use 4x4 mode, still, it is about 100kgs (~5%) heavier than 4x2 safari due to additional gearbox and drive train differences. Hence, it is expected that 4x4 would be slightly lesser fuel efficient, if everything else remains same.

Btw, I have booked a black 4x4 vx myself

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