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Old 25th January 2009, 19:56   #31
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hi all,
we are still arguing to a point where half are supporting 4x4 and half 4x2.
i read about affordability in this debate. it not about affordability, buying a car sensibly.

What is it a 4x4 can do which 4x2 cant ?
if we are able to list out then it will be easy for me to decide.
if 4x4 is really worth it on a tata safari - then even i can go for vx 4x4 as it has ABS too.

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It means more confidence in your Safari under sticky situations. A 4x4 can take you out of a sticky situation, whereas a 4x2 might not, whenever its required.

Under these conditions the sensible decision would be to go for a 4x4 VX.

Go for it.
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hi all,
we are still arguing to a point where half are supporting 4x4 and half 4x2.
i read about affordability in this debate. it not about affordability, buying a car sensibly.

What is it a 4x4 can do which 4x2 cant ?
if we are able to list out then it will be easy for me to decide.
if 4x4 is really worth it on a tata safari - then even i can go for vx 4x4 as it has ABS too.

cheers
For finding out the exact difference between 4x4 & 4x2... you need to observe apes in comparision to humans.. that should give you a rough idea.
The monkey here is 4x4.
4x4 = flexibility.
I doubt anyone here can help you here with a list.
You better watch discovery channel.
cheers:

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Old 26th January 2009, 12:26   #33
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hi all,
Thanks.
After my need analysis i have planned to buy tata safari lx black hopefully next week.
Will be doing following. Suggestions are welcome for brand to install.

Will changes stock tyres to - 255 / 65 bridgestone (Will later pick alloys)
Central Locking -
Gear lock
Reverse camera with parking sensor
VX Crome Grill

ICE - Suggestion required
will get bumper and cladding painted - (Later may be in first service)

cheers

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Old 26th January 2009, 14:22   #34
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Thanks.
After my need analysis i have planned to buy tata safari lx black hopefully next week.
OK, v&v, enjoy your ride!

Can't ever say we didn't try!
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Jeez. Another one goes the 4x2 way!

At least you cant come back here and say that you werent informed.
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hi all,
Thanks.
After my need analysis i have planned to buy tata safari lx black hopefully next week.
Will be doing following. Suggestions are welcome for brand to install.

Will changes stock tyres to - 255 / 65 bridgestone (Will later pick alloys)
Central Locking -
Gear lock
Reverse camera with parking sensor
VX Crome Grill

ICE - Suggestion required
will get bumper and cladding painted - (Later may be in first service)

cheers
Since you have decided and asked for advice
1. whatever you want to get from Showroom ( bumper + cladding painted ) get it done at the time of buying you can negotiate price better , at the time of first service the price is going to be their choice.

2. ICE don't seek advice at T-BHP if you care about budget.

3. Central locking , Ask the Service adviser at dealership ( not the sales guy) for Contact point at Minda. You can get Ex engine immobilizer + Central locking. Sales people deny this can be done because then no one is going to buy EX 4X2

4. Reverse parking : Red Soul model with BT

5. Vx chrome gill : Give it a pass not worth spending 5K for this , Invest in fogs instead.
Get fog lamps at stock location from Dealership you can get good deal while purchase.

6. The correct Tyre size to upgrade is 255 / 60 R 16 IMHO and for 255 you will need a 7J rim.
So in case you are going for Alloys buy 7J .
Another word of caution finding correct PCD in aftermarket alloy is not easy , Your tyres may foul with bumper and engine guard on full turn specially with 255 tyres. So do a lot of study and do not
listen to Tyre dealer is he says " Chal Jayega".

Last but not the least doing all the above your budget will almost reach same as EX 4X4 so you may like to reconsider your decision now

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How much does an engine immobilizer cost. I already have Nippon Central Locking on my LX, If I decide to go for an Immobilizer will it be compatiple with the fitted Centrl Lock.

Do we have any Gear Lock that doesnt interfare with Gear Shift? GearLock that Tata showroom have isnt very good. (Autocop?)
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How much does an engine immobilizer cost. I already have Nippon Central Locking on my LX, If I decide to go for an Immobilizer will it be compatiple with the fitted Centrl Lock.

Do we have any Gear Lock that doesnt interfare with Gear Shift? GearLock that Tata showroom have isnt very good. (Autocop?)
Engine immobilizer is used in quite generic sense , The one I am talking is Safari OEM unit from Minda it sends signal to ECU so that Engine does not start at all. costs around 5.5 K. Remote locking + engine immobilizer is available as one kit and does not work with other units.

Catch is that ECU wire needs to be stripped in LX as they have not left harness in place so if you are getting it done outside dealership and if some fault develops in ECU they can deny warranty claim.
Tata dealership do not offer the Mida OEM unit as accessary and push Autocop instead.

Other so called aftermarket engine immobilizers do not actually interact with ECU and vehicle can be started if one is able to open the hood.
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hi,
thank to all guys. i took my new safari yesterday. Black.
Got the Central and Gear Shift Lock installed. (Autocop).
Rear Parking Sensor with 6" lcd.

Didnt by the Grill.
Didnt changed the tyres

ICE - Plan to have a Pioneer DVD with Steer Control. Not Decided yet.

Went for a long drive today morning on jaipur highway. Drove around 150 kms.
Really Enjoyed. Kids were haveing a nice time.

Thank to all again.
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Congrats, v&v. Enjoy your new toy!
Drive safe!
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Congrats on the buy, V&V!

Have a great time and wish you many miles of a safe and wonderful motoring experience.
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congrats V&V, enjoy your drive.
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Congrats mate...

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hi,
thank to all guys. i took my new safari yesterday. Black.
Got the Central and Gear Shift Lock installed. (Autocop).
Rear Parking Sensor with 6" lcd.

Didnt by the Grill.
Didnt changed the tyres

ICE - Plan to have a Pioneer DVD with Steer Control. Not Decided yet.

Went for a long drive today morning on jaipur highway. Drove around 150 kms.
Really Enjoyed. Kids were haveing a nice time.

Thank to all again.
v&v

Congrats!

Do change the tyre asap if you intent to!

And pix
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Old 5th February 2009, 21:02   #45
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thank to all.
uploding photos.


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