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|13th February 2009, 21:35||#1|
Octy vRS Achilles Heels
Achilles was a warrior whose mama dipped him in some magic potion, while holding his heel. The heel was the only vulnerable spot,
The vRS goes like a bullet once the turbo kicks n but there are many things that can make you bite the bullet or merely irritate you so here goes:
Last edited by ajmat : 13th February 2009 at 22:29.
|13th February 2009, 21:45||#2|
Water Pump failure
A known fault, it will happen unless you change the pump early
Why ? - silly design, plastic impeller fails - initially, it will turn slower than required. Worst case it will break and pieces will go into the water jacket
How do I know ? If you merely rev your engine or gun it, the needles go sky high. If you drive at around less than 2000 rpm and switch off at the lights, you could manage 10 km assuming ambient temp of around 30 deg C on a sat morning. You could push it by stopping every 10 km and letting it cool.
What is the damage : Ranges from coolant loss to blown gasket to cracked head depending on your car sympathy quotient
What is THE damage? - minimum Rs 10000 pump + fitting. Take the opportunity to change timing belt if car has done 40000 km +
When can this happen? - any time from 25000 km onwards
What else can it be ? Thermostat valve could fail, check this first
Last edited by ajmat : 13th February 2009 at 22:19.
|13th February 2009, 21:54||#3|
Engine Fan Failure
Why? - silly design of fuses located above battery creates a water trap or fan control unit failed
How do I know? - AC stops working when fan fails, temp increases in slow traffic. If AC fails while cruising- you bet. Likelihood - during monsoon. If you can maintain speeds of 40km/h + , airflow can do the cooling till you reach help. Otherwise, get an electrician to bypass the fuse and continue
What is the damage? Chances are it overheats at low speed so gasket at the most! Chances are fuse block on battery is burnt
What is THE damage? Rs 4000 for the fuse box, Rs 20000+ for fan control unit
When can this happen? During rainy weather, driving through floods
What else can it be? Loose wiring
How do I prevent it ? Spray the battery area and radiator connections with wd40 every three months
Last edited by ajmat : 19th June 2013 at 10:04.
|13th February 2009, 22:07||#4|
Lumpy idling esp low speeds
Why? - Throttle body dirty or not aligned electronically
How do I know? - Feel it, hear it. EPC light will come on, then the "check engine" light and car will not go more than 1500
What is the damage? Dirty throttle body, needs to be removed and cleaned. not a difficult job. If done, but persists, the TB may not be aligned properly and needs to be reset electronically
What is THE damage? dealer charge s Rs 200, He may suggest a new TB which is only warranted if you have been using spurious arrack - Rs 26000. However, I have found a source who can supply me a bosch unit for Rs 12000 ex UK. Landed might be Rs 18000
When can this happen? Around 30000 if TB never touched
What else can it be? Coil packs weakening - if engine misfires slightly at higher speeds
How do I prevent it ? Insist on throttle body being cleaned every service. Easy on the system G. Use half the recommended dose
Last edited by ajmat : 19th June 2013 at 10:05.
|13th February 2009, 22:13||#5|
Slight Misfire on hard acceleration,
Why? - Coil packs getting weak
How do I know? - It misses especially after warming up
What is the damage? Eventual damage to head and bearng but you need to be totally unmerciful
What is THE damage? dealer charges Rs 3100 per coil pack. My source can get me Bosch ones for Rs 2000 approx ex UK. Best to change all in one go. If there is a servicable one replaced, retain and keep as an emergency spare.
When can this happen? Around 30000km onwards depending on usage conditons, less if you touch them and use them as hockey sticks or toy guns - very sensitive
What else can it be? Throttle body, fuel pump
How do I prevent it ? Pray
Last edited by ajmat : 13th February 2009 at 22:18.
|13th February 2009, 22:17||#6|
Graunching Noises over speed bumps or when getting in and out of car
Why? - Anti roll bar bushes splitting
How do I know? - The noise and car laterally pitches when going over bumps or braking hard. Pitching happens before the noise
What is the damage? Usually the bushes, anti roll bar will need changing if you are too late, approx Rs 10000
What is THE damage? Rs 1000
When can this happen? Around 30000km
What else can it be? Cracked springs, othe bushes
How do I prevent it ? Drive like a priest
Last edited by ajmat : 13th February 2009 at 22:26.
|13th February 2009, 22:25||#7|
Engine went boom with an expensive noise
Why? - Timing belt snapped
How do I know? - Engine may not turn or makes expensive noises when turned
What is the damage? Pistons hammered the valves, if they are waving at you when you lift the engine, ouch
What is THE damage? Officially Rs 150000 for a head rebuild, a lot less if done by a good independent
When can this happen? Around 40000km onwards depending on use, age of belt
What else can it be? bottom ends or something expensive
How do I prevent it ? Ensure belt is inspected during service. Change belt at 45000km (change water pump if not ever done while you are down there in the engine bay)
|13th February 2009, 22:28||#9|
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good report ajmat ji, that seems like much more than an Achilles heel, it's quite a few problems. This is a car i'd love to procure but it's the maintenance
that seems way too expensive.
Btw it wasn't magic potion, it was the river Styx, the heel and ankle remained unaffected not because they were not dipped but because his mothers hands had them covered, while she dipped him headfirst.
|13th February 2009, 23:37||#12|
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You have now officially become the Skoda VRs expert, hate to see you go through all this.
Get a better car.
|14th February 2009, 00:01||#13|
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This thread just put me off Skodas for ever! Surprising to read about failure rates of various parts this early - 30 - 40k km. And the replacement prices... Is this stream (river?) of problems only for the RS or even for the 1.9 TDIs?
|14th February 2009, 00:08||#14|
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same here just bought an vrs spended like 1 lac on it but still gives me some or the other problem...changed the suspension overall but stilll come ratteling problem from left even changed all 4 coils.....now goes next
|14th February 2009, 00:55||#15|
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But, Why is this "failure" engine worshipped by so many and used by VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda in umpteen models?
Or did we get the older version and it has been updated everywhere else?
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