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Old 17th February 2012, 22:06   #916
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Got the car serviced at the service centre. Yes the issue was with one of the heating plugs. Cost of the plug Rs.759.12 plus Rs.200 Labour.

It seems ECU remap has to be done post this which cost Rs.450. I am not sure about this. Experts can comment. But the service advisor normally has been trustowrthy so i believe there has been no rip off.

As the routine service was also due at 60K kms got it done now itself at 58K to avoid one more visit.

Now the problem is resolved.


Do you face any problems with the vehicle electronics ? Apart from the service light due to heater plugs does it come on in between ? If not I dont think there is necessicity for ECU remap. To the best of my knowledge there is no upgrade in the software of the ECU recently. Hence I dont think it necessary to remap the ECU.

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Old 18th February 2012, 07:46   #917
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Do you face any problems with the vehicle electronics ? Apart from the service light due to heater plugs does it come on in between ? If not I dont think there is necessicity for ECU remap. To the best of my knowledge there is no upgrade in the software of the ECU recently. Hence I dont think it necessary to remap the ECU.

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No did not face any other problem. But the SA told me that since the service indicator was remaining ON it was necessary to remap ECU and erase old data. So it was done.
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No did not face any other problem. But the SA told me that since the service indicator was remaining ON it was necessary to remap ECU and erase old data. So it was done.

In that case the only thing necessary is to erase the fault code which has been stored in the memory. It is not necessary to remap the ECU or rewriting the software. Erasing the fault code should have been done as a part of the changing of the heaterplug.

Is the service light still on ? I dont think so. Secondly the service light will not glow to show that the ECU needs remapping.

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Old 18th February 2012, 20:15   #919
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Is the service light still on ? I dont think so. Secondly the service light will not glow to show that the ECU needs remapping.

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The service light is not on now. The invoice lists the job as Erase Old ECU data. Do not recollect ECU remap written. I guess the SA was just throwing out some fancy terms.

But any issues even if the ECU remap is done? What exactly would have been done in that case?
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The service light is not on now. The invoice lists the job as Erase Old ECU data. Do not recollect ECU remap written. I guess the SA was just throwing out some fancy terms.

But any issues even if the ECU remap is done? What exactly would have been done in that case?

Remapping ECU is nothing but formatting and rewriting the software. This is generally required if the service or the check engine light comes on frequently without any apparent reason. Or whenever there is a software upgrade from the manufacturer.

There are some agencies which do the remap of software to enhance the performance of the vehicle. Though this is not advisible as this can put the engine and the components under undue stress.

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Got the car serviced at the service centre. Yes the issue was with one of the heating plugs. Cost of the plug Rs.759.12 plus Rs.200 Labour.

Now the problem is resolved.
Good that the problem is resolved. Do you mean glow plugs? If yes, did they change all the plugs or only 1 or 2?
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Good that the problem is resolved. Do you mean glow plugs? If yes, did they change all the plugs or only 1 or 2?
Yes the glow plug. Only one was damaged which was changed. I was surprised with the cost of one of those.
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Maybe its OT here but worth mentioning. Not sure if the old Indica and the Vista share the same glow plugs. A fnrd of mine changed 1 glow plug for his Indica @ Lucas TVS for Rs. 250 only (4 for 1k). They were Bosch make. Labour is Rs. 100 only
He had gone to TASC initially and they gave him a cost of Rs. 1400 for 4 glow plugs. Add to that labour charges.

At times it does makes sense to visit Lucas instead of TASC.

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Maybe its OT here but worth mentioning. Not sure if the old Indica and the Vista share the same glow plugs. A fnrd of mine changed 1 glow plug for his Indica @ Lucas TVS for Rs. 250 only (4 for 1k). They were Bosch make. Labour is Rs. 100 only
He had gone to TASC initially and they gave him a cost of Rs. 1400 for 4 glow plugs. Add to that labour charges.

At times it does makes sense to visit Lucas instead of TASC.
No the Glow Plugs on Indica/ Indigo TDI are different from the Quadrajet or Dicor. The ones on TDI cost around Rs400/- per peice. The cost of the GP on Quadrajet is around Rs800/-. The cost of Glowplugs on Dicor are also around Rs800/-

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No the Glow Plugs on Indica/ Indigo TDI are different from the Quadrajet or Dicor. The ones on TDI cost around Rs400/- per peice. The cost of the GP on Quadrajet is around Rs800/-. The cost of Glowplugs on Dicor are also around Rs800/-

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Thanks Samir for the clarification. After reading Chaand's post i was wondering if i had been fleeced by TASC. Your post subsequently was a relief. There was no daylight robbery done by A$$.
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One simple question to all. Do you know how to adjust the low beam of Vista. I have tried with the provided adjusting screw type area on the head lamp. But all went in vain.

My right headlight was replaced by TA$$ under warranty. The small cover in front of the park lamp parted with its joint and were running inside the headlight. So they replaced. But till then the OEM headlight was well focused and covered much distance. But with the new one it covers only 3/4 of distance covered by the earlier headlight. I asked TA$$ 3 or 4 times to adjust the low beam. Instead they adjust the high and returned the car. This happened 4 times. When asking the similar answer.. "Sir, its correct as per our inspection. We have adjusting facility inside our workshop" .I have seen that they have. But I am not getting any results.

Now its a pain to drive in nights with inadequate light that too on the right side. I don't use high beams unless the road is empty.

Could you please help my friends?
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Are you concerned about the L shaped projection that the lights throw on low beam ? meaning the left low beam has more throw than the right? then thats the way its supposed to be unless you want change that to an eliptical projection, meaning both low beams have same throw. Ask the TAS about this they would definately help, there is not much mechanics involved, if fact you can do it at home. I had a case where the left beam was hitting on coming traffic due to wrong fittment but it was corrected immediately.

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One simple question to all. Do you know how to adjust the low beam of Vista. I have tried with the provided adjusting screw type area on the head lamp. But all went in vain.

My right headlight was replaced by TA$$ under warranty. The small cover in front of the park lamp parted with its joint and were running inside the headlight. So they replaced. But till then the OEM headlight was well focused and covered much distance. But with the new one it covers only 3/4 of distance covered by the earlier headlight. I asked TA$$ 3 or 4 times to adjust the low beam. Instead they adjust the high and returned the car. This happened 4 times. When asking the similar answer.. "Sir, its correct as per our inspection. We have adjusting facility inside our workshop" .I have seen that they have. But I am not getting any results.

Now its a pain to drive in nights with inadequate light that too on the right side. I don't use high beams unless the road is empty.

Could you please help my friends?
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No the Glow Plugs on Indica/ Indigo TDI are different from the Quadrajet or Dicor. The ones on TDI cost around Rs400/- per peice. The cost of the GP on Quadrajet is around Rs800/-. The cost of Glowplugs on Dicor are also around Rs800/-

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Thanks for clarifying but the fact remains that TASC does charge a higher amount for the same product when compared to the market. I have pointed this out to my TASC as well during servicing as well as during customer meets. They agreed on the matter but mentioned that they could not do anything about it. For eg: when I wanted to replace the engine oil for my vista during the 10k servce, TASC quoted around Rs. 400 more than the market price for the same oil, TASC did not agree to me changing the oil from outside as it would 'void' the warranty.
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Thanks for clarifying but the fact remains that TASC does charge a higher amount for the same product when compared to the market. I have pointed this out to my TASC as well during servicing as well as during customer meets. They agreed on the matter but mentioned that they could not do anything about it. For eg: when I wanted to replace the engine oil for my vista during the 10k servce, TASC quoted around Rs. 400 more than the market price for the same oil, TASC did not agree to me changing the oil from outside as it would 'void' the warranty.
Spares are the bread and butter for the Service Centres to earn money. So i am not surpised.

But changing engine oil from outside voids warranty?? This is news to me. So do did they force you to change the engine oil in the TASC during the service when it was due? Then what about coolants and other fluids which might require top ups?
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What the SA explained was that, they need the oil change to reflect in their system when any warranty claims are made, so if I oil is not changed from them, it does not reflect in their systems. If found that difficult to believe, but wen ahead with the oil change from TASC anyway.
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