Indica Vista - list of Known problems

[Sam.k]

Originally Posted by Arun.K

Sam, I feel TAFE is not so good when compared with Autozone. Most of the service advisors don’t even care to attend the customers. I have been there two years back for Vista’s service. I don’t know about the present scenario of their TATA cars service division. Hope it would’ve improved by this time. Anyway just give a try at TAFE for fixing the minor issues. Who was your regular service advisor at Autozone?

Its one Mr.jeeva.Have spoken to other superiors as well.

[Sam.k]

Originally Posted by Sam.k

My 1 year old DT4 vista's engine goes dead when i engage the clutch for down shifting at lower gear speeds.But there's no knocking like when you really slow down in a specific gear.The power steering goes dead a well which is a major safety hazard.This has happened nearly 6-7 times in the last 40 odd days and i have a feeling that the frequency is increasing.Moreover i have had clutch problems from the beginning which TASC claims to have settled by replacing the clutch assembly,but nothing much has changed.Now,i dont know if the two issues may be linked.But something is just not right

The same is happening while emergency braking as well...the engine goes dead eventhough i depress the clutch.Is this just becos its a diesel car or what??I have never faced these things in the last 17 yrs of driving

[torquecurve]

Sam, Raise the issue, this should be under warranty. It could be an issue with the ECU where some sensor is not working properly. There is a diagnostic tool that the TASS use to find this out. Insist on it.

[kartikk]

Originally Posted by Sam.k

The same is happening while emergency braking as well...the engine goes dead eventhough i depress the clutch.Is this just becos its a diesel car or what??I have never faced these things in the last 17 yrs of driving

There is a thread on this problem please search the forum and its mainly related with Ford Figo. Many Figo owners have complained about this. Especially after driving for a long stretch and you need to slow down say for a toll-booth as you downshift the engine goes kaput. Various folks have updated the thread with possible solutions try them.

At best I think it can be some Error Code thrown by the ECU or engine timing setting. Ask the TASC to run the ECU check.

OT
I complete 2 years and 41K km today what must I say its been worth every penny, not a single problem in my car and it feels good to say this with confidence.

Please update your experience/solution would help all of us. Thanks

[Maverick1977]

Last November I changed the clutch of my Vista at 38K km. The juddering asbolutely disappeared after that and all was smooth.
In the last 2 - 3 days I have observed that after staring the car, leaving it to idle for a min, and putting the AC on if I start driving I feel that the car is going to stall if I don't press the accelerator. In fact on one of the occasions when I was climbing a slope I changed from 3rd to 2nd but the car just stalled.

Is there a problem with the clutch? Again? I will be shocked if it is so since I have spent quite a lot for the change as compared to getting it done from outside.

What could be the problem? Has the fly wheel gone bad or the clutch fitted by the TASS guys is of poor quality.

[amitwlele]

Originally Posted by Maverick1977

Last November I changed the clutch of my Vista at 38K km.

Why clutch change so early at 38K KMs? I am assuming this would not be covered under warranty.

I have been running my Vista for 58K Kms now with no issues. Did the Service Centre update about you what was the issue?

[sushantr5]

Originally Posted by Maverick1977

Last November I changed the clutch of my Vista at 38K km. The juddering asbolutely disappeared after that and all was smooth.
In the last 2 - 3 days I have observed that after staring the car, leaving it to idle for a min, and putting the AC on if I start driving I feel that the car is going to stall if I don't press the accelerator. In fact on one of the occasions when I was climbing a slope I changed from 3rd to 2nd but the car just stalled.

Is there a problem with the clutch? Again? I will be shocked if it is so since I have spent quite a lot for the change as compared to getting it done from outside.

What could be the problem? Has the fly wheel gone bad or the clutch fitted by the TASS guys is of poor quality.

After 72,000 kms, I think it is time to change the clutch for my Vista. Because lot juddering is happening and clutch has become super hard and some times while pickup I hear screeching sound. These all leads to clutch problem.
How much does the clutch of Vista QJD cost? What is the labor cost?

[Arun.K]

Originally Posted by amitwlele

Why clutch change so early at 38K KMs? I am assuming this would not be covered under warranty.

amitwlele, even in my Vista clutch was replaced under warranty at ~16000 Kms due to hardness and noise.

Originally Posted by sushantr5

How much does the clutch of Vista QJD cost? What is the labor cost?

sushantr5, these are the rates of the clutch parts. They are a year back's rate.
Clutch kit : Rs. 6200/-
Clutch release bearing : Rs.550/-
Flywheel assembly : Rs. 6100/-


One of our Vista's speedometer stopped working all of a sudden and the service indicator started glowing intermittently. TASC people took one day for finding out the defect. After checking the sensor, wiring and instrument, they finally found the problem was with the pinion in gearbox. Due to non-availability of parts, the car is lying idle with them for the past two days. Does anybody had this problem in your Vista?

[sushantr5]

I am planning to do my clutch change work from outside for my Vista QJD. Is it fine to do it outside? Mechanic was previously working with TASS.

Cost of Vista TDI clutch kit is Rs.3200. He does not know cost of Vista QJD clutch kit. I will update the cost once I get it from him.

[Arun.K]

sushantr5, if your Vista is out of extended warranty, then I think there wouldn't be a problem in changing the clutch outside TASS. I've seen a new exclusive TOP(TATA Original Parts) outlet here at Coimbatore. There should be one at your place too. So the availability of major original parts will not be an issue.

[Arun.K]

Originally Posted by Arun.K

One of our Vista's speedometer stopped working all of a sudden and the service indicator started glowing intermittently. TASC people took one day for finding out the defect. After checking the sensor, wiring and instrument, they finally found the problem was with the pinion in gearbox. Due to non-availability of parts, the car is lying idle with them for the past two days. Does anybody had this problem in your Vista?

The speedometer problem for our 2008 Vista (odo 82000 KMs) was solved finally. TASC people took one week to source the parts and took 2 1/2 days to complete the work.

Tachometer parts


It looks like a simple job, but carries a hefty bill.
Gear tachometer - Rs. 325/-
Support tachometer - Rs. 360/-
Speed sensor - Rs. 435/-
Gear box repair labour - Rs. 3600/-
Gasket and covers - Rs. 2200/- (approx)
Wheel arch inner liner both sides - Rs. 720/- (replaced on request)



In addition to speedo problem, poor brakes, clutch hardness and shuddering were also reported. TASC people changed the clutch completely.

Clutch kit pad assembly - Rs.1695/-
Kit clutch -Rs. 3484/-
Flywheel - Rs. 5953/-
Clutch release bearing - Rs. 515/-
Clutch repair labour - Rs. 660/-
Brake disc both sides - Rs. 1313/-
Brake disc replace labour - Rs. 720/-

Earlier clutch kit and pad assembly was replaced under warranty during 10000 KMs. service. I think clutch related parts will be covered under warranty/extended only till 30,000 KMs. Am I right? Since speed sensor and brake discs are mentioned under extended warranty, (TATA Motors Extended Warranty Parts Coverage) I had asked TASC people to recheck the parts covered. I'm not sure about the coverage of flywheel and tachometer related parts.

[Maverick1977]

After quite some time (thankfully) I have started facing a new problem in my car. Since the last 2 days as soon as I start the car in the morning, the engine automatically dies within a few seconds. I then wait for around 30 seconds and then crank the engine. It takes quite some time before the engine comes to life.
Today morning I also happen to notice that the 'Service Indicator' light was not switching off. Read the manual & this is what it read -- It remains “ON” If there is a
problem in any of the engine components.

Has any one faced this issue earlier and what is the remedy for it.

I am planning to go to TASS by 2:00 and it would be great if some light is shed on this since the TASS guys some time don't understand the problem in the 1st place.

[amit1234singla]

Originally Posted by Maverick1977

After quite some time (thankfully) I have started facing a new problem in my car. Since the last 2 days as soon as I start the car in the morning, the engine automatically dies within a few seconds. I then wait for around 30 seconds and then crank the engine. It takes quite some time before the engine comes to life.
Today morning I also happen to notice that the 'Service Indicator' light was not switching off. Read the manual & this is what it read -- It remains “ON” If there is a
problem in any of the engine components.

Has any one faced this issue earlier and what is the remedy for it.

I am planning to go to TASS by 2:00 and it would be great if some light is shed on this since the TASS guys some time don't understand the problem in the 1st place.

How old the car is? Glow plugs is the first thing I'd check, assuming ur car is a diesel. Please update us back. thanks

[foby.sebastian]

I have got a vista referesh QJD with drivetech Gears. its a terra , the reason why i went for a terra was to stay away from eletronic hazzles in long run anticipating that i will use this car for 5 years.

It has just completed 15,000 kms

2 days before its battery was dead and I took it to TASS here in Trivandrum after today after charging the battery in a local battery shop.

The local battery workshop person advised me that the problem is with the alternator.

The tASS person confirmed it that the alternator is not working.

Now the real issue starts.

The vehicle is just 1 year and 20 days old. The issue is with the Alternator. They confirmed that the alternator is made by a company called "Value" . What the heck I have never heard a company called "Value" .

The next interesting thing is the process to get the alternator changed through Tata warranty.

i need to put my car in the TASS premisses with job card open , then the TASS people will raise a DIR (I dont know whats a DIR). Once the DIR is approved some people from Chennai will come to inspect the car (with in 5days the DIR is approved)

Once they approve it, if the product is readily availiable they will give a new alternator and fit it .

If it is not availiable I have to wait till it comes from Pune.

This weired procedure is also applicable for starter mortors.

Does any one faced similer kind of issue ? is there any way to speed up the process ?

The other tamasha is that TATA's run a call centre and they pretend that they help their customers. ''THEY JUST RUN IT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THEIR MISTAKES ''

I wonder when Tatas are going to understand the meaning of Quality.

There are also many other issues while running . the sounds are coming from nowhere. when we say it in TASS they will smile at you , the meaning of the smile is extra sounds are free with Tata cars/passenger vehicles.

One of the design issue is if the AC is on and you are driving @ 60 plus kmph if you take external air , the blower will not blow. One recommended solution from TASS is try to take air from inside else drive slow.

I still remember , 1 year back before buying this car some elderly people advised me not to go for it. The reason they told for that is TATA only make good Chasis/Trucks not cars.

[greenhorn]

foby, have you tried escalating it to their customer support ?
this does seem rather unreasonable