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Old 23rd April 2009, 14:49   #46
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purchased 7 ltrs of delo gold ( one 5 ltr and two 1 ltr cans) multigrade 15w-40 isosynthetic? means semisynthetic i think
hope its good if not i am going to drain it and use it in my generator
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Old 23rd April 2009, 15:27   #47
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How much did this cost doc ? And what specs ?
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another observation- if I take my foot of the accelerator at 4.5k rpm, the car keeps rolling on effortlessly. On delvac MX, the car's nose would dive immediately as soon as the foot was off the accelerator, as if the brakes were being applied. Welcome side effect- no more lift off oversteer on ghat roads mid corner. not so welcome side effect- I expect engine braking will decrease. Will update after my next ghat run.
Did you do any changes apart from oil, lift off declaration will not go off because of oil change, its more to do with fuelling, being not cut off.
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How much did this cost doc ? And what specs ?
cost rs 1282/- for 7 ltrs including vat thats rs 183/- per ltr

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what about the other oils. I know castrol GTD is crap, because that what I've been using so far . Castrol GTX ought to be better.
Why do you say Castrol GTD is no good? Any bad experiences with it?

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I'm running Delvac MX on my indica turbo now. car feels a bit rougher, but somehow i feel the power delivery is better at the same time (not sure if its mental hp at work).
I did a flush before changing the oil
According to what I read, flushes was away the sludge and deposits. Some of these deposits might actually make the engine smoother it seems. Perhaps this is what make your engine noisier but gives you better power delivery. Most of the sites mention that if a car has had regular oil changes an oil flush is not needed very much.

I use Mobil Super 1300 for my Swift VDi. Till 20K the service station was using Servo (recommended by Maruti). Changed over to Mobil at 20K. 180/- per litre.

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purchased 7 ltrs of delo gold ( one 5 ltr and two 1 ltr cans) multigrade 15w-40 isosynthetic? means semisynthetic i think
hope its good if not i am going to drain it and use it in my generator

This oil is really good. Ive been using it in my Indica and its still going strong after, engine feels much smother then with Castrol GTD.

BTW, isosyn is a kind of technology which makes mineral oil perform like synthetic oil . It is not semi-synthetic and probably doesn't make that much of a difference.

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purchased 7 ltrs of delo gold ( one 5 ltr and two 1 ltr cans) multigrade 15w-40 isosynthetic? means semisynthetic i think
hope its good if not i am going to drain it and use it in my generator

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Hi All,

You all are sounding greek to me however I am still trying to read & understand what you mean to say


However, this resulted in a querry within me

I always got my Scorpio service from authorised Mahindra Service Center & always got the oil changed at recommeded intervals. Everytime they changed the oil with Mahindra recommended Mahindra Diesel Engine oil. Now How am I supposed to know if it best for my car??

PS : it costs me around 3000/- per oil change (only engine oil)
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Why do you say Castrol GTD is no good? Any bad experiences with it?
Thanks. Usually with GTD, it feels butter smooth the day of delivery, and progressively worse , and by around 3000km, you dont feel like driving with the windows down - the noise is THAT bad.

I've run only about 1200K with the delvac MX so far, was rough a bit initially, not sure whether it's reduced or I've gotten used to it. lets see how it holds up
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I always got my Scorpio service from authorised Mahindra Service Center & always got the oil changed at recommeded intervals. Everytime they changed the oil with Mahindra recommended Mahindra Diesel Engine oil. Now How am I supposed to know if it best for my car??

PS : it costs me around 3000/- per oil change (only engine oil)
You can ask them to show you the oil they are using. Or simply ask them which brand and variant and then check the specs on the net.

3000 bucks for how many litres ? Does it also include the oil filter cost ?
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Thanks. Usually with GTD, it feels butter smooth the day of delivery, and progressively worse , and by around 3000km, you dont feel like driving with the windows down - the noise is THAT bad.

I've run only about 1200K with the delvac MX so far, was rough a bit initially, not sure whether it's reduced or I've gotten used to it. lets see how it holds up
For Indica V2 diesel the oil change interval is 7.5 k whereas for Indica Vista TDI the oil change interval is 10k. I am wondering how come the same engine with little refinement can run 2.5K kms more, without oil change.

@Greenhorn: So Castrol GTD doesnt last even 3k kms
I am really confused as to what the oil change interval should be.

When I went to the service station for the 5k service the service advisor firmly advised NOT to change oil at 5k kms. I didn't change oil at that time because if I force him to change it inspite of him telling me not to, what is the guarantee that he will really change the oil. They might just lie to me that they have changed the oil.

Tata motors provides extended warranty for 1.5L kms, I wondering how come they are willing to provide this warranty yet not recommending to change oil sooner.

I am planning to keep my car for 5 years/ 1 lac kms. Can you guys please let me know, If I stick to mfr recommended oil change duration of 10k kms what is the worst case scenario that I will face?
Will the mileage drop?
Engine performance drop?

I cant live with both the above issues and will change oil every 5k kms if there is even little chance of the above happenning.

Please advise guys

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Get castrol GTX diesel for your indica. It will run fine for 10K kms without oil change. I change oil every 7500kms or 6 months(whichever is earlier) in my indica. Its done almost 110000kms, and the engine is running fine(though can't say the same about everything else )
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When I went to the service station for the 5k service the service advisor firmly advised NOT to change oil at 5k kms. I didn't change oil at that time because if I force him to change it inspite of him telling me not to, what is the guarantee that he will really change the oil. They might just lie to me that they have changed the oil.
of the above happenning.
Which service station did you go to? I have reliable information that the service advisors are informed by TML to suggest the first oil change at 1000 km itself.
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PS : it costs me around 3000/- per oil change (only engine oil)
Holy Smokes! For that oil? Jeez!
A 7.5L bucket of Mobil Delvac MX(real good) costs Rs.1500
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Which service station did you go to? I have reliable information that the service advisors are informed by TML to suggest the first oil change at 1000 km itself.
I went to Concorde, Dairy circle in Bangalore.
During 1k and 5k servicing, I have explicitly asked if I could change the engine oil and both times they were different Service advisors and both had nonchalantly advised me not to change the engine oil until 10k kms
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Today being a holiday I wanted to change the engine oil of my car.
I called up a dealer for Delvac MX and it costs around 1100 Rs for 6 ltrs(5ltr can+ 1ltr can) also visited a near by spare parts shop to found that they have Shell Rimula X that costs 1200 Rs for 6 ltrs(5 ltr+1ltr cans)

I called up a TASC near my house and asked them the cost for oil change and they said for Castrol GTD it will cost 215/- per ltr for just the oil, That comes to about 1200 Rs for 5.5 Ltrs, so much for such a cheap oil

These guys buy oil in bulk and surely they are making a hefty profit by engine oil sales. So I asked if I could bring my own oil and will they change it. They promptly refused.

I then decided that I will just buy the oil and go to a roadside mechanic, after all changing oil is not rocket science.

But then another stumbling block. The rogue TASC and TASS dont sell the oil filter over the counter.

I was also told the Vista oil filter is different from the Indica V2 or the Indigo oil filters ( this may be the reason why the oil change interval is longer for the Vista, may be a better filter)so it is unlikely that I could find it anywhere.

This is really frustrating. I would like to know how do you guys do the oil change. Maybe in your cities the A.S.S. es allow you to take your own oil?

Cheers,
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