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Old 4th November 2014, 10:49   #1336
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[quote=auto_enthusiast;3571417As seen on the can, it meets and exceeds requirements of API SN, ACEA A3/B4.[/quote]
This is an oil for Petrol engines. What is the Diesel rating - it will be C-<something>.
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My 30k run Figo TDCi is due for service shortly. Ford recommends SAE 5W-30 semi-synthetic oil for Figo Diesel. Last week I purchased castrol magnatec 5W-30 part-synthetic(still to use it). As seen on the can, it meets and exceeds requirements of API SN, ACEA A3/B4.

Any insights on this, with respect to, the specifications would be very helpful.

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AECA A3/B4 => B4 indicates diesel rating as per AECA. [link:http://www.oilspecifications.org/acea.php]. There is no API diesel rating for this oil as you have put up.
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This is an oil for Petrol engines. What is the Diesel rating - it will be C-<something>.
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AECA A3/B4 => B4 indicates diesel rating as per AECA. [link:http://www.oilspecifications.org/acea.php]. There is no API diesel rating for this oil as you have put up.
Regarding the diesel rating, there's nothing else mentioned on the can. But it clearly indicates for use in petrol, CNG and for diesel engines with turbo, with or without intercoolers. Whereas in the service booklet it mentions API CD/CE/CF4; SAE 5W-30. Please advise whether I should go for Castrol magnatec 5W-30 Part-synthetic or for some other oil.
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Regarding the diesel rating, there's nothing else mentioned on the can. But it clearly indicates for use in petrol, CNG and for diesel engines with turbo, with or without intercoolers. Whereas in the service booklet it mentions API CD/CE/CF4; SAE 5W-30. Please advise whether I should go for Castrol magnatec 5W-30 Part-synthetic or for some other oil.
I'm not sure even if Castrol Magnatec is rated above CF. Check your car manual. If the oil specification is CH or above, theoretically it rules out most of the high end synthetic and semi synthetic oils
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Regarding the diesel rating, there's nothing else mentioned on the can. But it clearly indicates for use in petrol, CNG and for diesel engines with turbo, with or without intercoolers. Whereas in the service booklet it mentions API CD/CE/CF4; SAE 5W-30. Please advise whether I should go for Castrol magnatec 5W-30 Part-synthetic or for some other oil.
I own a swift VDI and have never used this particular oil in my 67k running. But, have used Shell HX6 Diesel (synthetic blend) - CH4, Petronas Urania - CH4, Shell Rimula - CI4, Petronas Mach 5 Diesel - CH4. All good oils with 15W40 rating. Change interval around 5-6k.

Have read that AECA tests are more stringent compared to API, as someone told above check your manual if they specify that the oil need to be having a mandatory API seal. Invite oil expert's comments on this.
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Regarding the diesel rating, there's nothing else mentioned on the can.
I think this is the ford specific oil; for the tdci any CF+ will do.

Many Ford owners scouted for this ford specific Castrol Magnatec 5W30 diesel oil(semi-synth) and it was said that castrol sells it only in drums for supplying to Ford service centers.

how did you source this?
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Hi Guys,

Is anyone using Mobil Delvac 1 in Verna 1.6 CRDi ? If yes, then how is the performance and the NVH levels, My car has done close to 7000 kms and I am planning to switch to synthetic oil.
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I think this is the ford specific oil; for the tdci any CF+ will do.

Many Ford owners scouted for this ford specific Castrol Magnatec 5W30 diesel oil(semi-synth) and it was said that castrol sells it only in drums for supplying to Ford service centers.

how did you source this?
Just saw on Castrol India's website, it mentions the Castrol Magnatec 5W30 to meet these specifications: API SN/CF ACEA A3/B4 whereas on the oil can CF was not mentioned. Since CF is rated above CD/CE/CF4, I think its OK to go ahead with this oil.


It's available off the shelf at all the automobile stores. I purchased it in a can of 3.5L and 0.5L.

Here's the link http://www.castrolmagnatec.co.in/oil....aspx#oilRange

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I live in a place where you get only Castrol Engine Oil. My grandfather owns a Swift(old) Diesel. MASS Dealer workshops charge a lot here. So he wants to buy Engine Oil from Castrol dealer and put it at a trusted garage. My query is - Is GTX 15w40 suited for the old swift Diesel? I have checked the Castrol website and it says-
Castrol GTX 15w40
1.Suited for use in vehicles where manufacturer recommends CH4 or earlier.
2.Viscometrics SAE 15w40
3.Technical Specifications-
API SF/CC
SAE 20w40
How can a engine oil have different viscometrics and different technical specs?
Is this possible? Engine oil experts please enlighten us.
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Dear Adit Mishra,

There are two oils fom Castrol , Castrol GTX 20W50 and Castrol GTX Diesel.
You are looking at Castrol GTX 20W50 on website which is a petrol engine oil.
Also seems web site designers had no idea about any of the specification so
they have mixed up nicely

Please click on the Castrol GTX Diesel tab on the website on the same page and then check.

For Swift you need Castrol GTX Diesel which is 15W50 API-CH4
Same 1.3 engine from Tata motors runs fine on this so there is no reason to hesitate.

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Help solicited from Team Bhpians,
I live in a place where you get only Castrol Engine Oil. My grandfather owns a Swift(old) Diesel. MASS Dealer workshops charge a lot here. So he wants to buy Engine Oil from Castrol dealer and put it at a trusted garage. My query is - Is GTX 15w40 suited for the old swift Diesel? I have checked the Castrol website and it says-
Castrol GTX 15w40
1.Suited for use in vehicles where manufacturer recommends CH4 or earlier.
2.Viscometrics SAE 15w40
3.Technical Specifications-
API SF/CC
SAE 20w40
How can a engine oil have different viscometrics and different technical specs?
Is this possible? Engine oil experts please enlighten us.
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Dear Adit Mishra,

There are two oils fom Castrol , Castrol GTX 20W50 and Castrol GTX Diesel.
You are looking at Castrol GTX 20W50 on website which is a petrol engine oil.
Also seems web site designers had no idea about any of the specification so
they have mixed up nicely

Please click on the Castrol GTX Diesel tab on the website on the same page and then check.

For Swift you need Castrol GTX Diesel which is 15W50 API-CH4
Same 1.3 engine from Tata motors runs fine on this so there is no reason to hesitate.

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Thanks amit26k, I have seen the tag on GTX-specially recommended for TATA cars. Perhaps a goof up by web designers. But can you please check their INDIA page? You will surely notice the anomaly there. I will be going ahead with Castrol GTX 15w40 as no other good company-Shell/Mobil1/PETRONAS is available here. I personally wanted to use the fames Mobil Delvac for my Ritz Diesel.
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I personally wanted to use the fames Mobil Delvac for my Ritz Diesel.
adit.mishra - check is this helps:

http://www.99rpm.com/tata/oils-fluids/engine-oil.html

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adit.mishra - check is this helps:

http://www.99rpm.com/tata/oils-fluids/engine-oil.html

Cheers,
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Sorry, I meant the famed Mobil 1 Delvac. That is one great page you recommended. But has anyone tried out purchasing Engine oils online? Please advice friends. 99rpm seems to be a great place to buy engine oils. Only concerned about the authenticity of engine oils.
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Sorry, I meant the famed Mobil 1 Delvac. That is one great page you recommended. But has anyone tried out purchasing Engine oils online? Please advice friends. 99rpm seems to be a great place to buy engine oils. Only concerned about the authenticity of engine oils.
Apart from authenticity I do not see any API CH4 or higher oil (CI / CI+) at 99rpm.
I see your location as Bhuvneswar and it's a pretty big place. As with any other Indian city there should be some market for auto spares where trucks / earthmover buy spares and oil.

You can easily get Castrol GTX Diesel or Shell Rimula R4 ( CI+). Heavy Diesel engines such as JCB / Earthmovers need CI grade oil.

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Sorry, I meant the famed Mobil 1 Delvac. That is one great page you recommended. But has anyone tried out purchasing Engine oils online? Please advice friends. 99rpm seems to be a great place to buy engine oils. Only concerned about the authenticity of engine oils.
Please check this:
http://www.justdial.com/Bhubaneshwar...3E-bhubaneswar
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