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Old 13th August 2015, 21:47   #481
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I am experiencing a niggle and a few other issues with my Punto:
i) Indicator does not stop blinking after a turn is complete. I have read all possible explanations about this across threads and tried all things like turning sterring extreme left-extreme right etc. Nothing seems to work. Any idea if this would happen regularly after rectifying? The showroom guy says it would be rectified in less than 500/- by changing a part (not sure which one did he exactly mention). My concern is that this shouldn't be repetitive in nature.
I have same problem. But service guy told me entire combination switch needs to be changed which might cost 2-3k.

Where did you show the car? I need to get this and the squeaky clutch pedal checked.
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I have same problem. But service guy told me entire combination switch needs to be changed which might cost 2-3k.

Where did you show the car? I need to get this and the squeaky clutch pedal checked.
I had earlier reported this problem at Skymoto Akurdi, Pune. The part was not with them at that moment and I was willing to wait till the next servicing. I am habituated to set the indicator back to its original position after a turn is completed, much like a 2-wheeler or old style cars!!
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Guys, I want to give my car for intermediate service as it needs windshield and strut pad replacements.Till now, I have serviced my car at Vecto Fiat and I have had issues post service. I am stuck with this service center as I got good rapport with Service Executives and Personnel.

Today my friend called and told about his good service experience at Aadya Fiat. He used to get his car serviced at Vecto and he also had bad experience there. Today I am supposed to drop my car for service & I am confused about Aadya & Vecto. It would be great if I could get your advice on your experiences with the above mentioned service centres.

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Old 24th August 2015, 14:18   #484
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Strange thing happened over the weekend.

All was well before I started to head back home from work.
It was raining quite heavily and I noticed a warning message flashing on my MID stating some issue with the left sidelight. At the same time I noticed that whenever I activated the left turn indicator to make a left turn, the frequency of the clicking sound was more compared to if I had to take a right turn with right side indicator on(in this case the clicking sound was occuring at a normal frequency). I guessed something might have gone wrong judging by the sound and the message on the MID console. I was right, as soon as I reached home I checked to my surprise/shock I found out that the indicator light functionality was swapped with the brake lights!. I mean the left brake light started to blink whenever I activated the left turn indicator stalk. And when I braked the left indicator was activated instead of brake lights. I found this incredibly funny and odd at the same time.

To make the matters even more strange, I saw two more Punto facing the same problem in the vicinity of Mysore road. No doubt I will be heading to the service station shortly but I want to understand does Bangalore rains have such a power to short/damage the electrical circuitry inside the Punto so easily and manage the same effect (swapping brake lights and indicator lamps functionality) in all the cars I observed.

Any Punto owners facing/faced same/similar issue?

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Old 31st August 2015, 01:51   #485
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Hi,
I thought I'll update my cost of ownership till now for my vehicle
Fiat Punto MJD Emotion Pack 2009 58000 KMS

Other than normal regular service which happens once a year, Following are some of the problems i faced with my car till now.

Car couldn't start
After turning the ignition, nothing happened, it did resolve after a few tries initially, but after a day it got worse. Service guys told me some ignition part needs to be changed it set me back by 10K approx.

Timing belt changed at 45K Kms Damage 15K

Front Suspension Overhaul
Recently my car had its 6th service and problems were as under
Power steering pipe was leaking had to be replaced, along with flex hose and collar.
Front Both shocker mounts replaced, along with shock absorber and elastic pads
Both Link rod replaced
Total Damages Inclusive of Regular Service 30K.

I am still facing problem with gear lever, sometimes it doesn't slot in easily and i can hear a sound. I asked them to check it this time around, but i think they forgot or something. This is a big problem with thrust fiat service they check one thing forget all other issues.

Since my last service both Reverse and rear fog lamps are out. They also need to replaced.
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Strange thing happened over the weekend.

All was well before I started to head back home from work.
It was raining quite heavily and I noticed a warning message flashing on my MID stating some issue with the left sidelight. At the same time I noticed that whenever I activated the left turn indicator to make a left turn, the frequency of the clicking sound was more compared to if I had to take a right turn with right side indicator on(in this case the clicking sound was occuring at a normal frequency). I guessed something might have gone wrong judging by the sound and the message on the MID console. I was right, as soon as I reached home I checked to my surprise/shock I found out that the indicator light functionality was swapped with the brake lights!. I mean the left brake light started to blink whenever I activated the left turn indicator stalk. And when I braked the left indicator was activated instead of brake lights. I found this incredibly funny and odd at the same time.

Any Punto owners facing/faced same/similar issue?

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Your indicator bulb is gone. The same is getting detected and the car is trying to compensate by warning with the brake lamps instead. Pretty brilliant if you ask me.

Have seen this in my car and posted a video earlier in my ownership thread. Yes, the speed of clicks heard will be almost double normal.

Just replace the bulbs and system should be back to normal.
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Your indicator bulb is gone. The same is getting detected and the car is trying to compensate by warning with the brake lamps instead. Pretty brilliant if you ask me.

Have seen this in my car and posted a video earlier in my ownership thread. Yes, the speed of clicks heard will be almost double normal.

Just replace the bulbs and system should be back to normal.
That's the strange part as I have mentioned it earlier. The indicator bulb is not gone. The indicator bulb lights up when I brake
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Your indicator bulb is gone. The same is getting detected and the car is trying to compensate by warning with the brake lamps instead. Pretty brilliant if you ask me.

Have seen this in my car and posted a video earlier in my ownership thread. Yes, the speed of clicks heard will be almost double normal.

Just replace the bulbs and system should be back to normal.
I'm amazed if what you say is true. The electrical system is really a dumb system and is not designed to compensate by sending the electric current to another bulb since the primary bulb is fused/not working.

IMO, It appears to be a case of short circuiting happening somewhere, perhaps the two wires are exposed and touching at some point. Please take the car to the service center and get it checked.
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That's the strange part as I have mentioned it earlier. The indicator bulb is not gone. The indicator bulb lights up when I brake
Looks like a case of grounding issue due to rain. Remove the tail lamp and connectors, a good of WD 40 spray and clean up should solve it.

Crazy_Driver, this is one more thing to be kept in the Fiat knowledge bank
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That's the strange part as I have mentioned it earlier. The indicator bulb is not gone. The indicator bulb lights up when I brake
That happened to me as recently as yesterday.

As Nkrishnap mentioned- it should be a grounding issue. Remove the lamp assembly and get the connectors checked.

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I'm amazed if what you say is true. The electrical system is really a dumb system and is not designed to compensate by sending the electric current to another bulb since the primary bulb is fused/not working.

IMO, It appears to be a case of short circuiting happening somewhere, perhaps the two wires are exposed and touching at some point. Please take the car to the service center and get it checked.
The dumb system did three things when the indicator bulb conked off-

1. Show the bulb sign on the dashboard.
2. Write an alarm message that RHS indicator bulb is gone.
3. The indicator clicking sound becomes 2x times that of normal.
4. And as we (did the replacement along with Nkrishnap) noticed during the replacement of the bulb, it did the below -



PS- That was a genuine bulb issue. More recently I got grounding issue after heavy rain. The service center had removed the assembly once again to do a preventive replacement of the other bulbs. Probably it was not fixed back properly. Could find a lot of grit inside the assembly as well.
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That happened to me as recently as yesterday.
As Nkrishnap mentioned- it should be a grounding issue. Remove the lamp assembly and get the connectors checked.
The dumb system did three things when the indicator bulb conked off-
1. Show the bulb sign on the dashboard.
2. Write an alarm message that RHS indicator bulb is gone.
3. The indicator clicking sound becomes 2x times that of normal.
In that case I'm impressed. No doubt a brilliant feature one would like to have. Wondering why FIAT doesn't bother to mention such key features in the user manual.
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That happened to me as recently as yesterday.

As Nkrishnap mentioned- it should be a grounding issue. Remove the lamp assembly and get the connectors checked.



The dumb system did three things when the indicator bulb conked off-

1. Show the bulb sign on the dashboard.
2. Write an alarm message that RHS indicator bulb is gone.
3. The indicator clicking sound becomes 2x times that of normal.
4. And as we (did the replacement along with Nkrishnap) noticed during the replacement of the bulb, it did the below -

All fixed once the indicator bulb was back in place. Think it's dumb? Can probably cross test it by removing the indicator bulb once again, but it did not occur to me yesterday when we had the assembly removed anyways.

PS- That was a genuine bulb issue. More recently I got grounding issue after heavy rain. The service center had removed the assembly once again to do a preventive replacement of the other bulbs. Probably it was not fixed back properly. Could find a lot of grit inside the assembly as well.
Thats good, but its definitely not an "intelligent system" to compensate and give the same current to another bulb. Also, as already explained, its not as if his bulb has conked off in the first place. Its most likely a fault in the wiring, which could be grounding, shorting etc...
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Quick update:
Regarding my earlier problem on indicator stoke not automatically stopping after a turn is complete. This issue has been mentioned here earlier and various possible solutions were discussed. For eg., turn the steering to complete left and then complete right for 2 times, etc.

The advisor informed me that a somple change of horn plate would completely eliminate this issue. It costs something in less than 400 Rs. range.

In addition, I have a new issue that I'm facing. It is most likely that my silencer has got loose. On each and every bump when the left portion of the car covers, there is a noise that can be heard This has become extremely irritating and I am no way able to drive peacefully. Touching the highways for long drives are not an option considering this. I'll be showing these issues to the mechanic tomorrow at the FIAT ASS in Akurdi, Pune. I hope it is not a major issue but what is important is to understand the cause behind this.
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I have same problem. But service guy told me entire combination switch needs to be changed which might cost 2-3k.

Where did you show the car? I need to get this and the squeaky clutch pedal checked.
I am not sure if this particular issue with your car persists by now. The advisor at Skymoto Akurdi recommended change of horn plate that wold cost less than 400 INR! The item was not in stock with them but would be available a week after my last visit.

Do yo service at Pandit? Please share with us your experiences so that will help understand if it wold worth to travel to the other corner of the city for readers based out of northern parts in Pune.
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I am not sure if this particular issue with your car persists by now. The advisor at Skymoto Akurdi recommended change of horn plate that wold cost less than 400 INR! The item was not in stock with them but would be available a week after my last visit.

Do yo service at Pandit? Please share with us your experiences so that will help understand if it wold worth to travel to the other corner of the city for readers based out of northern parts in Pune.
Hi,

I ve let it be as it is for the time being since I ve not got the time to take my car tk the service center.

Coming to your query about Pandit, my experience has been mostly good. I believe it has been widely considered as among the best Fiat service centers in Pune. However sad part is that they have shut shop and now no longer sell/service Fiat.
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