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Old 25th July 2009, 23:33   #1
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My car has barely run 10k and the clutch is starting to become heavy already. How do you guys manage to drive in the city traffic controlling the speed without using the clutch and still manage to drive without jerks?
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Is it possible to drive without riding the clutch in India?
Yes, in an automatic.

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Jokes aside,my santro's clutch lasted for around 60k before wearing out.
Maybe its a car specific issue,or rather a clutch specific one in your case?
10k is too small a distance for the clutch to be replaced even in our conditions.[Proud to be in these conditions btw].

Sometimes i have observed a wire or a nut obstructs the proper depression of the clutch into the slots,which results it in being heavy. Get it checked.
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Couldn't really find a public forum so posting here.

My car has barely run 10k and the clutch is starting to become heavy already. How do you guys manage to drive in the city traffic controlling the speed without using the clutch and still manage to drive without jerks?
take you foot off the clutch the moment gear is changed and keep it away till you change the gear again!

it will take some time to get rid off the habit of riding the clutch!

otherwise automatic is the BEST option!
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take you foot off the clutch the moment gear is changed and keep it away till you change the gear again!
Well, doesn't it jerk?

It's not always that you get to accelerate after changing up in traffic is it? In that case, when you clutch-shift up-declutch how do you deal with the jerks when it is too slow or when you get a chance to accelerate from lower than ideal rpm?
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Well, doesn't it jerk?

It's not always that you get to accelerate after changing up in traffic is it? In that case, when you clutch-shift up-declutch how do you deal with the jerks when it is too slow or when you get a chance to accelerate from lower than ideal rpm?
The magic/trick lies on how you use your feet,and the car.
It takes a bit of practice and knowing the response of the car which leads to an automatic avoidance of jerks.
Can't really be explained in words,this is has to be self learnt.
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Is it possible to drive without riding the clutch in India?
Yes, in an automatic.

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Jokes aside,my santro's clutch lasted for around 60k before wearing out.
Maybe its a car specific issue,or rather a clutch specific one in your case?
10k is too small a distance for the clutch to be replaced even in our conditions.[Proud to be in these conditions btw].

Sometimes i have observed a wire or a nut obstructs the proper depression of the clutch into the slots,which results it in being heavy. Get it checked.
Yeah, got it checked today. Apparently it's just the wear. :(
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seriously speaking, in cities such as mumbai, it is not possible to drive 100% without riding the clutch. when you are in stop and go traffic and moving up the speed just in gear one, you are bound to do a significant amount of damage to the clutch. at best, what you could do is maybe try and avoid this when not stuck in traffic, or by avoiding things like jacking the clutch suddenly for screeching acceleration. i faced the clutch problem with my esteem. the ford ikon seemed to hold quite well though. so i do feel that manufacturer and quality also have a role to play here.
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We can all wax eloquent - but if your commute, your reality needs riding the clutch, so be it
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take you foot off the clutch the moment gear is changed and keep it away till you change the gear again!

it will take some time to get rid off the habit of riding the clutch!

otherwise automatic is the BEST option!
Right on! Actually the one time I owned an automatic, I avoided holding it on the brake for long times too - preferred to shift it to N, and then use the brake, or the parking brake.
The other thing I do is to keep shifting to neutral in traffic, in crawl situations. And coast. Don't need to have the worry of a runaway car in that situation as you would going downhill in neutral.
But I keep my foot away from the clutch exactly as set out above.
PS: In modern cars, it also easy to get into first while the car is moving, so I see no reason why you should not always be able to take off without slipping the clutch.

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I tend to use neutral a lot in mumbai traffic and just roll to stops smoothly. I also accelerate slowly (to avoid sudden braking) which gives me a bit of space for gear change too. Of course thats exactly when the auto driver in the neighbouring lane senses a lot of place is being wasted and decides to cut me off. Its also what results in a big ruckus and traffic jams. Its also why I am now going to buy a SUV and not stop at all for the next pesty black n yellow tripod that crosses into my lane.

Goog god, I really hate those fellas. Sorry for going OT here. But 10k is too short for any car. You just need to drive with a lighter foot and try to get a smooth ride without clutching all the time ; it can be done and the other advantage is of course fuel savings.
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I have seen PMC bus drivers change gears without depressing the clutch pedal.
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We can all wax eloquent - but if your commute, your reality needs riding the clutch, so be it
Very true. +1 or +2
All we can do IMHO is try to change our habbit of changing gears to do it more swiftly. This will reduce clutch engagement/ dis-engagement time and hence clutch life.
Additionally we can try using
Engine braking
Neutral roll
Anticipated driving (become sedate mostly)
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Gear shifting without depressing the clutch is possible theoretically but you need a lot of experience with the engine revs and sounds to know exactly when to shift. Truckers are known to be able to do this, but its highly not recommended for normal drivers. You are looking at major damage to the car if you persist.

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It takes practise NOT to ride the clutch -else go for an AUTOMATIC!!
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I'd say, if the clutch is slipped for making the car move from stand still, it's not called riding the clutch!

The rule is, apart from the 1st gear (when starting from standstill), you should not need to slip the clutch in any other gear.

When I'm done with getting the car to move, I always dump the clutch. Clutch is normally not the core reason for a jerk, accelerator is! keep a check on that instead.
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