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Old 18th August 2009, 13:27   #16
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i have done 200 kmph in my ANHC with no TS whatsoever !

i have also dome 165 in my earlier LOGAN...no TS in it too.

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Torque steer doesn't occur when you go fast. It occurs during a hard launch/acceleration in fwd vehicles with a decently powerful engine. TS is next to nil during gradual acceleration on almost all the stock vehicles.
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Another phenomenon I cannot quite explain is the fun involved in flooring a FWD around a bend (and blasting away). Just after someone cuts you off at a a little Traffic Island. Quite different from a Straight line TS and a lot more interesting.


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Almost all Indian manufacturers have eliminated torque steer from the cars sold here. Sell cars with underpowered engines, and voila, no torque steer!
Sadly Makes perfect sense
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Old 18th August 2009, 13:35   #18
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i have done 200 kmph in my ANHC with no TS whatsoever !
. Never experienced - even in NHC. I have checked on a empty highway. It always followed the lane marking on a straight road.
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i have some in my santro xing, more pronounced after the FFE and CAI.
. Even on stock, I have consciously steer it straight.
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It pulls hard on the left almost crossing a full lane if I don't hold the steering back.
That means there is something wrong with your rims or wheel alignment or balancing. Honda's (most of them) torque steer towards the right as the longer drive shaft is on the right hand side.

Also I think most members here are misinterpreting torque steer to something else. Torque steer actually is the direction in which the car moves on a hard launch.

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Torque steer doesn't occur when you go fast. It occurs during a hard launch/acceleration in fwd vehicles with a decently powerful engine. TS is next to nil during gradual acceleration on almost all the stock vehicles.
. Torque steer can been seen only at a hard launch. For eg take the revvs to around 4,000 rpm and dump the clutch. Even though you are holding the steering straight, the car turns left/right. You have to correct it to get back in a straight line. That is torque steer. Once the tires have enough traction to track in a straight line, you have successfully negated torque steer.
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Torque steer doesn't occur when you go fast. It occurs during a hard launch/acceleration in fwd vehicles with a decently powerful engine. TS is next to nil during gradual acceleration on almost all the stock vehicles.
thanks for the education !
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Torque steer can been seen only at a hard launch. For eg take the revvs to around 4,000 rpm and dump the clutch. Even though you are holding the steering straight, the car turns left/right. You have to correct it to get back in a straight line. That is torque steer. Once the tires have enough traction to track in a straight line, you have successfully negated torque steer.
thanks for the education !
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One example of torque steer is Verna CRDi, Light steering and Sudden surge at 2000rpm multiplies the effect.
getting used to takes sometimes, but a majority of the users dont feel this at all because they dont push the car that much, i am running 195s and still get them !
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hey Rulez,

i have done 200 kmph ... LOGAN...no TS in it too.

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Torque steer isn't dependent on how fast you're driving, it's dependent on how fast you're accelerating.

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Torque steer isn't dependent on how fast you're driving, it's dependent on how fast you're accelerating.

Tek -no-phobia,

thanks for sankar's education...i know the EXACT MEANING OF TORGUE STEER .
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Ohh my Magnum Diesel - it has lot of it, caused doe to non-equal drive shaft. in case of magnum its way too uncontrollable, imagine 320nm torque. so got used to it and usually i am very very careful while just sppining for fun or while taking off from traffic, a small mistake and i can bang on to anybody from either sides.

By the Indica Vista has equal drive shaft, so no torque sweer, but no power either
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TS used to be big in the old US muscle cars - nothing to do with fwd or rwd. The big V8's were known to be really prone to this problem.
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TS used to be big in the old US muscle cars - nothing to do with fwd or rwd. The big V8's were known to be really prone to this problem.
I don't think RWD cars face torque steer. In RWD the engine is not connected to the steering gear. As in the front wheels do the steering while the rear wheels put the power down.
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TS used to be big in the old US muscle cars - nothing to do with fwd or rwd. The big V8's were known to be really prone to this problem.
Thats more a RW burnout or whatever its called. The only and most important ingredient to make a delicious donut.

The phenomenon in Powerful RWDs is something most of us only can dream of ~ for now.
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I don't think RWD cars face torque steer. In RWD the engine is not connected to the steering gear. As in the front wheels do the steering while the rear wheels put the power down.
I first read about Torque Steer in either Autocar or Motor in the early 1970's when a student in the UK. i think they were specifically referring to this problem in either the Mustang or a Pontiac! afaik they were both rwd (as indeed almost all cars except for the Citroens and a few others).
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I first read about Torque Steer in either Autocar or Motor in the early 1970's when a student in the UK. i think they were specifically referring to this problem in either the Mustang or a Pontiac! afaik they were both rwd (as indeed almost all cars except for the Citroens and a few others).
I think this was more of a powerslide than torque steer where the rear bcomes unstable and slides out of line. It feels like torque steer bcoz the driver has to contsntly make steering corrections to avoid spinning out.

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