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Old 14th July 2005, 11:12   #1 (permalink)
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Whenever i switch to reverse gear a very sharp sound is heard.This dosent occur every time,but most of the times.I am not able to figure out this.
On enquiring from service center they told me that ther is design constraint in Swift,and you shouldn't change gear immediately after starting the engine.Switch to reverse gear only after 30 seconds of engine start.I dont know how truth it is.Will tell u more after confirming this.
Also what can be the relation between engine idiling and gear changing.
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Old 14th July 2005, 11:23   #2 (permalink)
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is it a grating sound.
if its this sound then it happens if the gears ar enot engaged properly.
change to neutral and remove your foot off the clutch .now again shift to reverse,this sound shouldgo.

used to happen in my car when it was brand new.
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Old 14th July 2005, 11:41   #3 (permalink)
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Whenever i switch to reverse gear a very sharp sound is heard.This dosent occur every time,but most of the times.I am not able to figure out this.
On enquiring from service center they told me that ther is design constraint in Swift,and you shouldn't change gear immediately after starting the engine.Switch to reverse gear only after 30 seconds of engine start.I dont know how truth it is.Will tell u more after confirming this.
Also what can be the relation between engine idiling and gear changing.
Hey Abhi,

I am not a Auto techie, but if what I have read is correct, the chaps @ Maruti are right! The fwd gears are Synchromesh and the Reverse is a sliding gear why they recommend the procedure of 30 secs. I am not very sure but have read this lately somewhere (perhaps on the forum itself - please checkup).

BTW, my Swift does this too, once in a while specially when it has been parked for a long time on my factory parking and the initial gear that I engage is the Reverse.

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Old 14th July 2005, 11:42   #4 (permalink)
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if its this sound then it happens if the gears ar enot engaged properly.
Rightly said. I was facing similar problem while attempting to take reverse in my Swift. While discussing with my friend, I explained him about the strange sound and he did said the same.

He took the wheels and did this for many times to prove that noise is due to not engaging the gears properly. After that I have not faced any problem
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What is gear engaging?Which one is proper?
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Old 14th July 2005, 12:20   #6 (permalink)
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Surprise,He took the wheels and did this for many times to prove that noise is due to not engaging the gears properly.
How do you do this?I mean what have you done?
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read what i have written.it should help.
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Old 14th July 2005, 13:53   #8 (permalink)
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if its this sound then it happens if the gears ar enot engaged properly.
Lets go step by step ,lets asssume my car is stationary and engine is off.At this point car is in neutral

1. I start the engine, wait for 30 seconds.
2. Now if i change the gear to reverse, i get the sound(Most of the times).
Even if after this i change to neutral and reverse,and if no sound is produced what will be the use of it.
What can be done to prevent this at first place itself?
Thanks fo showing the concern.
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Try this for a change.

Start your car,
shift it into 1st,
bring it back to neutral,
leave the clutch,
press it again and then shift into reverse.

This should make a diff.

I always double clutch when i shift into reverse (especially when the gearbox isn't warmed up).

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yeah what i said is same as what shan is saying.
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In the Palio 1.6 they have said wait for 2 secs after declutching before shifting into reverse.try doing something similar.
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Thanks all for the information,i will definitely try this and revert.
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Shan2nu Try this for a change.

Start your car,
shift it into 1st,
bring it back to neutral,
leave the clutch,
press it again and then shift into reverse.
Even this dosen't help.Worked for first time(yesterday) but today morning same sound is produced even after following above steps.
Man this is killing me.I think i have to go to Service Station.
Also does any body knows whether this sound affects gear also is this happens only in new car?
Thanks and Regards
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First question

Any of the Esteem people experiencing the same issue.

If not, looks like Maruti took out the syncromesh to save money on the Swift.
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If not, looks like Maruti took out the syncromesh to save money on the Swift.
Most cars in India don't have a syncromesh on the reverse gear. But, neither does the "Vtec" nor the "Wagon R" have such a problem.

It's common, that reverse is sometimes hard to get into (early in the morn) but i've never heard any noise comming from it.

Unless we hear the sound, it's impossible to help you out.

Get the car checked asap.

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