Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Technical Stuff


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 14th July 2005, 11:12   #1
BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Delhi
Posts: 82
Thanked: 7 Times
Default Swift reverse gear sound

Whenever i switch to reverse gear a very sharp sound is heard.This dosent occur every time,but most of the times.I am not able to figure out this.
On enquiring from service center they told me that ther is design constraint in Swift,and you shouldn't change gear immediately after starting the engine.Switch to reverse gear only after 30 seconds of engine start.I dont know how truth it is.Will tell u more after confirming this.
Also what can be the relation between engine idiling and gear changing.
abhi1881 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 11:23   #2
Senior - BHPian
 
speedsatya's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: bangalore/manga
Posts: 3,161
Thanked: 706 Times
Default

is it a grating sound.
if its this sound then it happens if the gears ar enot engaged properly.
change to neutral and remove your foot off the clutch .now again shift to reverse,this sound shouldgo.

used to happen in my car when it was brand new.
speedsatya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 11:41   #3
BHPian
 
Xsailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Noida
Posts: 128
Thanked: 0 Times
Default What they say is True

Quote:
Originally Posted by abhi1881
Whenever i switch to reverse gear a very sharp sound is heard.This dosent occur every time,but most of the times.I am not able to figure out this.
On enquiring from service center they told me that ther is design constraint in Swift,and you shouldn't change gear immediately after starting the engine.Switch to reverse gear only after 30 seconds of engine start.I dont know how truth it is.Will tell u more after confirming this.
Also what can be the relation between engine idiling and gear changing.
Hey Abhi,

I am not a Auto techie, but if what I have read is correct, the chaps @ Maruti are right! The fwd gears are Synchromesh and the Reverse is a sliding gear why they recommend the procedure of 30 secs. I am not very sure but have read this lately somewhere (perhaps on the forum itself - please checkup).

BTW, my Swift does this too, once in a while specially when it has been parked for a long time on my factory parking and the initial gear that I engage is the Reverse.

Cheers
Xsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 11:42   #4
Senior - BHPian
 
Surprise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chennai
Posts: 2,299
Thanked: 129 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by speedsatya
if its this sound then it happens if the gears ar enot engaged properly.
Rightly said. I was facing similar problem while attempting to take reverse in my Swift. While discussing with my friend, I explained him about the strange sound and he did said the same.

He took the wheels and did this for many times to prove that noise is due to not engaging the gears properly. After that I have not faced any problem
Surprise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 11:46   #5
BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Delhi
Posts: 82
Thanked: 7 Times
Default

What is gear engaging?Which one is proper?
abhi1881 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 12:20   #6
BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Delhi
Posts: 82
Thanked: 7 Times
Question

Quote:
Surprise,He took the wheels and did this for many times to prove that noise is due to not engaging the gears properly.
How do you do this?I mean what have you done?
abhi1881 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 13:29   #7
Senior - BHPian
 
speedsatya's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: bangalore/manga
Posts: 3,161
Thanked: 706 Times
Default

read what i have written.it should help.
speedsatya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 13:53   #8
BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Delhi
Posts: 82
Thanked: 7 Times
Default

Quote:
if its this sound then it happens if the gears ar enot engaged properly.
Lets go step by step ,lets asssume my car is stationary and engine is off.At this point car is in neutral

1. I start the engine, wait for 30 seconds.
2. Now if i change the gear to reverse, i get the sound(Most of the times).
Even if after this i change to neutral and reverse,and if no sound is produced what will be the use of it.
What can be done to prevent this at first place itself?
Thanks fo showing the concern.
abhi1881 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 14:06   #9
Senior - BHPian
 
Shan2nu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hubli - Karnata
Posts: 5,525
Thanked: 87 Times
Default

Try this for a change.

Start your car,
shift it into 1st,
bring it back to neutral,
leave the clutch,
press it again and then shift into reverse.

This should make a diff.

I always double clutch when i shift into reverse (especially when the gearbox isn't warmed up).

Shan2nu

Last edited by Shan2nu : 14th July 2005 at 14:10.
Shan2nu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 14:26   #10
Senior - BHPian
 
speedsatya's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: bangalore/manga
Posts: 3,161
Thanked: 706 Times
Default

yeah what i said is same as what shan is saying.
speedsatya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 14:36   #11
Senior - BHPian
 
merve_extreme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 1,360
Thanked: 12 Times
Default

In the Palio 1.6 they have said wait for 2 secs after declutching before shifting into reverse.try doing something similar.
merve_extreme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2005, 16:11   #12
BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Delhi
Posts: 82
Thanked: 7 Times
Default

Thanks all for the information,i will definitely try this and revert.
abhi1881 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th July 2005, 10:00   #13
BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Delhi
Posts: 82
Thanked: 7 Times
Unhappy

Quote:
Shan2nu Try this for a change.

Start your car,
shift it into 1st,
bring it back to neutral,
leave the clutch,
press it again and then shift into reverse.
Even this dosen't help.Worked for first time(yesterday) but today morning same sound is produced even after following above steps.
Man this is killing me.I think i have to go to Service Station.
Also does any body knows whether this sound affects gear also is this happens only in new car?
Thanks and Regards
abhi1881 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th July 2005, 19:58   #14
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Mpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 10,432
Thanked: 1,682 Times
Default

First question

Any of the Esteem people experiencing the same issue.

If not, looks like Maruti took out the syncromesh to save money on the Swift.
Mpower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th July 2005, 20:52   #15
Senior - BHPian
 
Shan2nu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hubli - Karnata
Posts: 5,525
Thanked: 87 Times
Default

Quote:
If not, looks like Maruti took out the syncromesh to save money on the Swift.
Most cars in India don't have a syncromesh on the reverse gear. But, neither does the "Vtec" nor the "Wagon R" have such a problem.

It's common, that reverse is sometimes hard to get into (early in the morn) but i've never heard any noise comming from it.

Unless we hear the sound, it's impossible to help you out.

Get the car checked asap.

Shan2nu

Last edited by Shan2nu : 15th July 2005 at 20:57.
Shan2nu is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reverse Gear ramkya1 Technical Stuff 29 2nd December 2015 10:26
Beeping sound when reverse gear is engaged in BMW 540i abk Technical Stuff 14 3rd August 2010 05:55
i10 gear stuck in reverse gear drkunaldas Technical Stuff 33 23rd November 2009 02:21
Sound from Engine Bay of Swift VDI (DDIS) - what would be the cause of this sound? DieselFan Technical Stuff 4 25th January 2008 18:31


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 22:45.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks