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Old 12th January 2010, 09:20   #1
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just got this link.Mods please change/delete/move accordingly

Is this true.Guys who went to Auto Expo please shed some light

Auto Expo: Fake auto parts found at China Pavilion: Rediff.com Business

"""Auto spare parts disguised as those of Bangalore-based component manufacturer Bosch Ltd have been discovered at the Auto Expo 2010 held in the capital's Pragati Maidan. The fake parts were displayed at a stall in the China Pavilion, which houses 5,000 sq metres of exhibition stalls of numerous Chinese component manufacturers. The alleged high-end lighting products, fraudulently branded as Bosch's, were discovered recently by the latter's officials.
Company officials said they had initiated action against the Chinese exhibitor responsible, but refused to elaborate. It could not be confirmed if any case had been registered with the police or with any authority.
"This is not just about counterfeiting. The displayed product was lighting systems that are capable of generating very high-intensity light beams from a vehicle, which we do not manufacture in our product portfolio. It is dangerous to install such high-powered lights in one's car. This is clearly an abuse of the brand Bosch," said V Sadanandam, Brand Protection Manager.
Bosch officials say the high-intensity beams are dangerous to both pedestrians and oncoming vehicles because the powerful lighting could blind the eyes. "It's also dangerous to the vehicle, since a high-intensity beam needs very high levels of energy to be lighted. A small short-circuit in the vehicle could blow up the entire car. We seized just one kit at the exhibitor's stall. We do not know how many consignments were stored in the in the city," said the official.
Business Standard reporters inspected the stall and the contraband. The exhibitor had vacated the premises since the morning. The alleged contraband bore the name Bosch. Domestic manufacturers say the level of sophistication is remarkable, as it has packaging identical to that of Bosch for its other automotive lighting systems.
Chinese delegates at the Pavilion told Business Standard they were not aware of counterfeit products at the Auto Expo. One manufacturer of piston rings who is a supplier to Chinese OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) said there may be instances of other counterfeit products finding their way in the Auto Expo but would not elaborate.
Sadanandam says the most commonly counterfeited product from Bosch's portfolio are spark plugs. "These are not manufactured by domestic counterfeiters. They are imported from China. The other bogus products parading as original Bosch products are reconditioned delivery valves and nozzles, and diesel filter inserts that are manufactured locally.""""""""
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Either those dudes from the Chinese stall were extremely foolish. Or they were brave! I mean, how can one even think about displaying counterfeit products at India's largest automotive expo, and one where EVERYONE is present. It's cheats like these that give China a bad name.
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The Chinese will never learn that success doesnt come by taking shortcuts.

It should be a salutary lesson to them but the whole manufacturing sector there being so fragmented, it is a very tough task to first find the perpetrators and even tougher, given the ramifications of International law, not to mention the language issue, to bring them to book!
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If they can reach an Auto Expo how easy is it to be available in Service Centers? And Bosch makes some critical components in an automobile. Dangerous stuff...
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+100 to what @spitfire said. we will never know if the fake parts enter the service centre and I am 100% sure by now this would have entered the gray/after market section. Imagine this for ex.: when we go to after market for lights and the shop guy gives this fake bosch lights and since the packing and other things match the bosch label we say ok and something happens then who is to blame.
Still the shocker is, this fake racket was found on the last day of the expo.how easily they could dupe all the organisers.
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Either those dudes from the Chinese stall were extremely foolish. Or they were brave! I mean, how can one even think about displaying counterfeit products at India's largest automotive expo, and one where EVERYONE is present. It's cheats like these that give China a bad name.
GTO. As with lawyers, the same holds true for Chinese counterfeit manufacturers. It is the 90% of them who give the rest 10% a bad name.
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I don't want to be branded as a racist but then what else can one expect of Chinese? They have no qualms about copying anything, Chinese IPR laws are laughable and they give two hoots for what others think.
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You surprise me.


Should I be?
I am not surprised. It is our good fortune that the Chinese made fakes were serendipitiously discovered. We as a nation are very very lax. Let's hope and pray that the Indian government will act out of character and have a monitoring mechanism in place to stop such counterfeiters.

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Should I be?
I am not surprised. It is our good fortune that the Chinese made fakes were serendipitiously discovered. We as a nation are very very lax. Let's hope and pray that the Indian government will act out of character and have a monitoring mechanism in place to stop such counterfeiters.

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Long time back(almost 5-7) years back there was a talk on chinese cars/bikes coming into india with a sealed engine which couldn't be opened if something happens to it amd the price was 50% less than the usual one for ex. a hero honda costetd 45K but these chinese bikes would cost around 20K with same power but had sealed moulded engine.But then the Indian govt didn't allow them.
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I personally feel that this being showcased in auto expo means that all this must be easily available & being used in our market where options of orginal & local is so very prevalent.
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I've told so many people that Bosch and Philips don't make HID kits for the mass market. Noooo, the package says Bosch! It has to be Bosch!

I have a few people to say "TOLD YOU SO!" to.
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The Government never will! I remember the times from my plywood business where we / the brands had to pro-actively bring counterfeits to task. Even in this case, its Bosch - the company - that fished the fakes out.

But I still can't believe someone had the nerve to carry fakes at the Auto Expo! That's like the stupidest thief alive!!
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But I still can't believe someone had the nerve to carry fakes at the Auto Expo! That's like the stupidest thief alive!!
The fact that makes it more stupid than stupidest is that Bosch themselves had a sizebale presence at the Expo. And that too not far away from the Chinese pavilion. Imagine a Bosch employee walking a few meters across and discovering the fakes.
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hahahahaha, that's the funniest commercial joke i have experienced. Go to an exhibition with cloned products which are hazardous upon application and are possible public disaster causes.

Hat's off to the Chinese.
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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...sion-kits.html (Are there really any genuine HID conversion kits?)

I had asked this sometime back. I'm still not sure if the Philips kits are genuine
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