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Old 6th October 2005, 17:05   #1
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I've been asked this question many times - why don't I trade in the TDi and get an RS?

A so called enthusiast like me should revel in the extra 60hp (well, 40hp since I got the Pete's box) and 7,100 rpm redline that 1800cc blown petrol pumps out. I totally agree, I would love that car, and I've made no bones about the fact that money being no object, that would be the car I would buy for myself.

Ultimately though, we do have to live in the real world. And that means facing real world problems like paying for fuel, driving through the hell we call roads and traffic.

They say pictures speak louder than words, so I rest my case for not trading in the TDi on these four photographs below.

1) Total Distance covered


2) Total time taken


3) Average Speed for this trip


4) Average Fuel Economy for this trip

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But then, Rtech, If you had a xTDI which gave you 20 BHP more? I dont think your example is quite right.
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Well said Rtech....I think the same way...Which is why I drive the Indica diesel....good enough for the speeds I do in the city and a pretty comfy highway car for two people.

If I did that highway trip more often though, I would prefer a much more faster car..say an Accent CRDi...I will never buy a petrol car in my life...torque is the way to go in the real world...case in point, we couldnt beat the CRDi on a Bangalore-Mysore trip in a old Honda City without revving to >4k RPM. The guy in the CRDi (relative) said he never crossed 2k. He got a mileage of 26 km/l while the City got 12 km/l.
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Take a look at the average speed. 9 kmph. You can have 500hp or 50hp...what difference does it make with traffic like that!

in an ideal world, there would be a garage full of cars to suit each purpose - EV for traffic, M5 for family vacation, Mclaren F1 for me
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Buy a Bajaj RE autorickshaw, hire a driver!
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Buy a Bajaj RE autorickshaw, hire a driver!
Correction ..
Don't hire a driver ..
Drive yourself ..
Pick up people on your way .. charge them enough to pay for your fuel !

Kidding ..
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Pick up people on your way .. charge them enough to pay for your fuel !
I should just paint the car blue & silver and do that now!
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I should just paint the car blue & silver and do that now!
Once upon a time when I was a lot younger, I had made such a plan .. and had wanted to start a 'ladies only' service !
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Rtech

In the last picc - i get a figure of 5.1 where you get 10.1 !
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yes, but I'm sure your distance is more than 4km!!
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Yup - 16 kms - 1200 RPM - 70 KMPH
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On second thoughts @Rtech .. to be fair, shouldn't the example be a petrol vs petrol or diesel vs diesel comparison ?

somewhat like the discussion that is going on in the 'Ford Ikon Josh 100 edition' thread ..
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On second thoughts @Rtech .. to be fair, shouldn't the example be a petrol vs petrol or diesel vs diesel comparison ?

somewhat like the discussion that is going on in the 'Ford Ikon Josh 100 edition' thread ..
Exactly shuvo. Which is why I had said :

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But then, Rtech, If you had a xTDI which gave you 20 BHP more? I don't think your example is quite right.
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I would agree with Rtech.
Thinking logically, the extra money on the Palio 1.6 GTX was just wasted.
It rarely goes to Pune and is always driven in the city.
A 1.2 Sport with alloys would have really made more sense.
It makes more sense buying practical everday cars and if you acn have two or more cars try and keep one for the occasional Sunday mornings.
Also, just a point to note, along with traffic, the road conditions here suck so the extra performance will just go to waste even if the road it clear unless the car in question is an Cayenne or likewise.
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Rtech, your title is 'Do we really NEED more horsepower?'

Couple of bhp more translates to 'mine is slightly bigger than yours'.

More than that but not going over board translates to 'mine is much bigger than yours'.

Insane amount of bhp like silver Supra with 720 bhp in Bangalore translates to 'MINE IS BIG. Don't even think about getting there...

Once in a while, 720 bhp Silver Supra comes to town to collect DVDs from a library. Crossing crazy amount of traffic at 40kmph max.

EGO and massaging will continue Rtech. With technology and money to support it.
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