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Old 30th June 2010, 16:59   #61
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Hey Nick, of course I checked the dip stick.

lol. The oil was on minimum as I have mentioned in my conversation to the Skoda engineer.
Oh, Sam... sorry I missed that...

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Old 30th June 2010, 17:30   #62
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Lovely narration, Sam. I wish you'd continued the saga to a few more pages.

I really appreciate what Shell did to you. Hats off to them!

But will I fill in fuel at Shell-----no, I guess not. There is still a difference of 7 bucks with other bunks.
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What a tale! (A real one at that!)
Chivalry is still not dead! It just changed lanes.

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Old 1st July 2010, 00:10   #64
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Shell has by far the best service in India. I remember driving into one of them with a Fiat 500 and they swarmed over her and even asked if they could take a pic of me with the car. makes you feel special!



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Hey Nick, of course I checked the dip stick.

lol. The oil was on minimum as I have mentioned in my conversation to the Skoda engineer.


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Oh, Sam... sorry I missed that...

I think he meant the other "Dip Stick"....Main Chalao!??

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Never ignore any warning light. You must be aware that there is also malfunction indicator. If this light is ON, even after starting the engine, you should imidiatly call the service center.

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Old 1st July 2010, 09:11   #66
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I am curious.
How does the engine know that it must consume more oil in the first 5k kms.
Is there some sort of a tap that is closed once the odo crosses the 5k mark.
By either the ECU or the Service center.
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I think you made this query in sarcasm of VW.
The question should be 'how can a new engine consume oil'?
And then, how can it stop in 5000 kms?
Very weird.
Exactly my question. How it stops after 5000kms ?

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The piston to wall clearance might be quite a bit which would cause blowby. Within this 5000 km mark, the rings would have seated in well and that would reduce the p2w clearance.
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Adding to what pranvt has mentioned, its also got to do with tighter clearance in the Mains & Connecting bearings in a new engine. That tighter clearance is what causing the oil to burn, the oil is really working hard to smooth out the friction, generating heat and causing oil to burn.
Once the clearance smooth ens out it should be normal.
Under such circumstances its wise to follow manufacturer recommendation of oil, if you put a regular oil it might cause a problem.
If this is the case, can we say that running in period of 1.8 TSi is 5000kms ? If for bedding in the engine consumes so much amount of oil, then wont is be dangerous to cross even 2K rpm as the clearance is yet to reduce ? Its half a litre of oil which is high amount.

It is known that during bedding in process, the engine will heat up a bit more due to higher friction and there might be metallic waste in the oil. But considering the amount of oil consumed by 1.8 TSi for bedding in process and the time taken ( 5000 kms ), I think VW should clarify how to do bedding in process on this engine.

On the other hand, Jap engines ranging from small to higher capacity are not known for this oil consuming ( and 5000 kms bedding in ) trait. The motors like K12M and G3HC ( ANHC ) are best examples of this.
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Only if SHELL service was Skoda service !

Shell should start a car service too
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Exactly my question. How it stops after 5000kms ?





If this is the case, can we say that running in period of 1.8 TSi is 5000kms ? If for bedding in the engine consumes so much amount of oil, then wont is be dangerous to cross even 2K rpm as the clearance is yet to reduce ? Its half a litre of oil which is high amount.

It is known that during bedding in process, the engine will heat up a bit more due to higher friction and there might be metallic waste in the oil. But considering the amount of oil consumed by 1.8 TSi for bedding in process and the time taken ( 5000 kms ), I think VW should clarify how to do bedding in process on this engine.

On the other hand, Jap engines ranging from small to higher capacity are not known for this oil consuming ( and 5000 kms bedding in ) trait. The motors like K12M and G3HC ( ANHC ) are best examples of this.

The ANHC has an L15 engine. Just saying.
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Just drove Pune-Mumbai yesterday and Sam, you are right, couple of gas stations around Hinjewadi are built like their foreign counterparts. Very swanky.

Great service too.

Glad you caught the oil loss in time.
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Most searched person on google with name as sam :
Not correct. The most searched person with the name Sam would be Mr Sam Pitroda - Father of Indian Telecom and currently the Chairman of National Knowledge Commission.

But Sam Kapasi would be the most searched person with name Sam and surname starting with K.

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lesson 1) fill up VW engines with helix ultra every 1k kms for the first 5k kms,always have 0.5 ltrs extra in car,

lesson 2) Conversations between sam and akbar are the best
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Exemplary levels of service, I'm really imrpessed. You're really lucky that you got treated well.

On a lighter note, my eyes popped outta their sockets when I was told you've started a thread in this section. I just HAD to come look
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I am curious.
How does the engine know that it must consume more oil in the first 5k kms.
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Exactly my question. How it stops after 5000kms ?.
Shame on you engine-vengine walas even I know that engine seals and gaskets need to absorb oil before they work as specified. Synthetic oils are not absorbed as well as mineral oils hence in the old days it was recomended to use mineral oils for the first 10K and then flush and switch to synthetics.

Since Skoda insists on starting the car off on synthetic oil the car will leak oil for a longer period than normal. I can only assume they (Skoda) do this becuase few people take care to flush the mineral oil properly before switching to synthetic.


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I owned 2 Skodas in the past remember ?
Both leaked oil? Funny nine does not. I have not had to re-fill oil ever just do an oil change every 10k.
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Only if SHELL service was Skoda service !

Shell should start a car service too
It would Skoda a world of good. And for us too, Superb car with Superb service.

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Shame on you engine-vengine walas even I know that engine seals and gaskets need to absorb oil before they work as specified. Synthetic oils are not absorbed as well as mineral oils hence in the old days it was recomended to use mineral oils for the first 10K and then flush and switch to synthetics.

Since Skoda insists on starting the car off on synthetic oil the car will leak oil for a longer period than normal. I can only assume they (Skoda) do this becuase few people take care to flush the mineral oil properly before switching to synthetic.




Both leaked oil? Funny nine does not. I have not had to re-fill oil ever just do an oil change every 10k.
You call your car nine?

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lesson 1) fill up VW engines with helix ultra every 1k kms for the first 5k kms,always have 0.5 ltrs extra in car,

lesson 2) Conversations between sam and akbar are the best
How is point 2 a lesson?
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You call your car nine?
yeah and my wife calls her car six!

Seriously yaar, it was a typo. "nine" was supposed to read as "mine".
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