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Old 10th July 2010, 12:46   #106
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Which high-end engines are you guys talking about? None of the Germans from my circle (including petrol & diesel Mercs / BMWs) have shown this appetite for oil. The only cars that have are from the VW stable (including Audis). Even after 10,000 kms of hard driving, my Benz shows the oil level as "ok". There is nothing high-end or low-end about excessive oil consumption during the run-in period.
Spot on.
I tried (and am still trying) to dig the scientific reason behind this oil "consumption". So far haven't met anybody who "really" knows. I am sure there must be someone in the Audi/VW/Skoda engine R&F who knows but am not getting through to that point.

In spite of me telling them upfront that I am happy with my Laura Tsi and just calling in to satisfy my curiosity about oil consumption (which my Tucson and NHC do not do), the Skoda Auragabad guys are not willing to come forth.

And please - I do not buy that crap - German versus Asian or "high-end" versus "low-end". This is BS. In fact, if the engine consumes no oil, it's high end in it's own right
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Old 10th July 2010, 20:05   #107
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Me too never heard of this initial drinking habit on any other car.
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2. Clearly inform all customers about the car's drinking habits. The only plausible reason I can think of, as to why they don't, is to avoid a "high maintenance" or "problematic" reputation for its products.
If they are wise they can do it after the sale is done and during delivery.
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Which high-end engines are you guys talking about? None of the Germans from my circle (including petrol & diesel Mercs / BMWs) have shown this appetite for oil. The only cars that have are from the VW stable (including Audis). Even after 10,000 kms of hard driving, my Benz shows the oil level as "ok". There is nothing high-end or low-end about excessive oil consumption during the run-in period.
This was a post from Distinguished BHPian Sahil quite a while back. I guess you've been lucky with your Germans, GTO.

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I mean no personal offense but I think you are taking this minor trait which is common to all Germans as per my experience ( Like I mentioned my BMW 525d also drank excess oil initially)
I personally do not hold Skoda culprit in this case, yes the problem you had earlier with the past car was unpardonable and I am glad they replaced it.

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Old 12th July 2010, 10:18   #109
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Looks like Sam's euphoria is going to be very short lived.

Shell's operational outlets are for sale, along with land at other locations they have acquired for setting up retail outlets. Indian Oil and BPCL have bid for this.

Info is based on a research sent to me by my stock broker, will post a public link as and when available - probably in the evening, when I am free.
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Looks like Sam's euphoria is going to be very short lived.

Shell's operational outlets are for sale, along with land at other locations they have acquired for setting up retail outlets. Indian Oil and BPCL have bid for this.

Info is based on a research sent to me by my stock broker, will post a public link as and when available - probably in the evening, when I am free.
The oil is not sold exclusively at Shell outlets. Besides all Skodas run on Shell synthetic oil, so I'm pretty sure Sam is covered.
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At Rs.1100 per liter, Shell would be even willing to come to your house and refill your engine oil.

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I guess you've been lucky with your Germans, GTO.
If you ask Sam, he'd be the first to admit he was lucky with a German too!

Seriously where does this oil go? Is it burnt? I do not see any signs of it on my car. Has anyone even instepcted the tailpipe of a VW/Skoda/Audi that is drinking more than it should?

Other TBHPains too have had an oil-drinking VW/Audi.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...km-normal.html

Only with Audis and VWs do you come across blogs like this..something IS amiss but the coats at VW/Audi are not listening hard enough.
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Assume a mileage of 15 kmpl for the engine running in a test environment at a factory.
Thats about Rs 10,000 worth of fuel for 3,000 kms worth of driving.
Plus cost of oil at say 3,000.

Why can't these guys run in the engine at their factories and then sell it.
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Is the drinking of too much oil initially by Skoda are obsorbed by parts like 'o' rings, engine oil seals or burnt totally. If burnt then I think there would be more black smoke in the exhaust.
My Figo which has done 6800km drinks oil and am following with Service centre. But in the Figo manual it has been mentioned that oil consumption will be stable after 5k kms.
Keeping my fingers crossed or I can proudly say my TDCI is like TSI's
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I think friction is higher during run in and that would result in oil temperatures shooting beyond flash point. This could result in oil getting burnt.
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This could be because they are still using the old type seals and gaskets which are in stock (for Indian market?) which don't work well until they are in use for a few thousand kms.
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The oil is imported. Probably justifies the hefty price. Rs. 1015/- per litre is not cheap.
Just for a comparison, Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 costs AED 35/- (Approx INR 425/-) per litre here in AbuDhabi, UAE.
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