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Old 5th July 2010, 13:18   #16
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Such rusting happens due to direct contact of bare metal with water or water vapor. Its because the show room guys wash the car, drive it to the parking area and leave it there with droplets of water sticking to the metal. This is what cause the surface corrosion or rusting.
Any kind of rusting is not good for the parent metal, as it removes minute parts of the metal along with it. Over a period of time, pitting would occur and sure is a compromise to the quality of the part.
During long storage, it is advisable to apply anti-rust paint on all metal surfaces, which the dealers are not doing. I have seen in middle east, new cars delivered would still have the anti-rust paint on all metal parts (except brake discs of course) and until you remove the nut first time, it remained.
Finally, rust doesn't protect parent metal completely. It only acts as a retarder to water reaching the parent metal. Eventually rusting will damage the metal.
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Default Delivery of a Diesel Vento - What is this rusted part?

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I went along with a colleague to take delivery of his Diesel Vento. Having been burned by Skoda before, when they sold me a defective Superb, I insisted on a PDI.

Everything looked just fine -- until I slid under the car and tried to inspect the underbody (much to the surprise of the mechanics there). There is a component there which is rusted -- does anyone here know what exactly that is? To give perspective - I had slipped under the drivers side door, and this is near the front axle equidistant from the two front wheels.

I told him that VW has been in India for less than two years now. Even if they purchased this item the day they entered India and saved it to this day, even then it shouldn't be rusted!!

Anyway, I was told that this is 'not a critical component', and that 'every diesel vento has it'. I looked under 3 different diesel ventos in the workshop. True enough, all 3 had it.

So -- question -- what is this component!? Anyone else with a diesel vento seen this before?

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Hi,

I went along with a colleague to take delivery of his Diesel Vento. Having been burned by Skoda before, when they sold me a defective Superb, I insisted on a PDI.

Everything looked just fine -- until I slid under the car and tried to inspect the underbody (much to the surprise of the mechanics there). There is a component there which is rusted -- does anyone here know what exactly that is? To give perspective - I had slipped under the drivers side door, and this is near the front axle equidistant from the two front wheels.

I told him that VW has been in India for less than two years now. Even if they purchased this item the day they entered India and saved it to this day, even then it shouldn't be rusted!!

Anyway, I was told that this is 'not a critical component', and that 'every diesel vento has it'. I looked under 3 different diesel ventos in the workshop. True enough, all 3 had it.

So -- question -- what is this component!? Anyone else with a diesel vento seen this before?

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I am not much sure, but from the looks It feel like its a some sort of support for the exhaust pipe. Some thing that can hold the pipe in correct position, may be to avoid rattles and other issues.
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Hi,

I went along with a colleague to take delivery of his Diesel Vento. Having been burned by Skoda before, when they sold me a defective Superb, I insisted on a PDI.

Everything looked just fine -- until I slid under the car and tried to inspect the underbody (much to the surprise of the mechanics there). There is a component there which is rusted -- does anyone here know what exactly that is? To give perspective - I had slipped under the drivers side door, and this is near the front axle equidistant from the two front wheels.

I told him that VW has been in India for less than two years now. Even if they purchased this item the day they entered India and saved it to this day, even then it shouldn't be rusted!!

Anyway, I was told that this is 'not a critical component', and that 'every diesel vento has it'. I looked under 3 different diesel ventos in the workshop. True enough, all 3 had it.

So -- question -- what is this component!? Anyone else with a diesel vento seen this before?

Attachment 943385

Looks like this is a support for the exhaust pipe. (I assume it is the exhaust pipe and it has bushes attached to control the vibration that is generated form the engine as you mentioned it is in the front end and near to the engine.)

Nothing to worry about, but best to get it replaced at the first service.

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Looks like this is a support for the silencer pipe. The bushes attached to it reduce the vibration of the silencer pipe.

Nothing to worry about, but best to get it replaced at the first service.
Why wait till the first service? They will find a way to charge the owner at that time as well.

Cant you insist that the part be replaced BEFORE delivery?
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This clamp seems to hold the muffler/silencer in place without passing on the vibrations (a clamp with a damper).

Need not worry about this part. Make be just take a brush and have it painted in your favorite to save it from deteriorating further, though the chances of it are remote.
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Default Re: Delivery of a Diesel Vento - What is this rusted part?

Its just a exhaust pipe mount , hanging on rubber bushings. Trust me, the chances of this falling off due to rust is much less than the chances of the rubber Bushings failing & ending up with a loose end pipe. This will probably last you the lifetime of the car.

There is Surface rust , which in all probability is just due to poor electroplating by the Vendor.

Nothing to get worried. Just enjoy your new car.

Happy Driving!
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Why wait till the first service? They will find a way to charge the owner at that time as well.
Assuming he has already taken the delivery and if he has no time to visit the service centre.

As per my experience with Maruti A.S.S. I never had a problem doing these minor replacements at the first service in my ownership of 4 Maruti vehicles over a period of time.

But even better to speak to the dealer and inform him about the short comings and get it replaced as he suggests.
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Mudit, most automobile exhaust components are made of a material called SS409. This is basically a stainless steel. But the unique thing about SS409 is that it will develop one layer of rust and this one layer will prevent it from rusting any further. This material is basically used where aethetics are not important, but corrosion prevention is. I have used a lot of this material and trust me when I say, it will not rust any further.

But for your peace of mind I would recommend you to ask the VW dealer to clean that part and then paint it with some black paint. From what I see in the picture that part appears to be welded to the exhaust pipe. Replacing this part would mean replacing that particular portion of the exhaust pipe.

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There is a component there which is rusted -- does anyone here know what exactly that is? To give perspective - I had slipped under the drivers side door, and this is near the front axle equidistant from the two front wheels.
That seems to be some kind of bracket behind the flex joint. Rusting in that area is common and not a big problem.
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That seems absolutely normal, nothing to worry about - just cross checked on my Vento as well.

Take the delivery and enjoy!
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Don't worry about it, it won't rust any further.

This is how it looks on a Vento that has covered 45,000kms.

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Don't worry about it, it won't rust any further.

This is how it looks on a Vento that has covered 45,000kms.
Thanks everyone! Looks like this is not much to worry about. The dealer told me they won't change the part because it's 'fine'.

Allthesame, it was still a bit unnerving to see this on a brand new one! But I guess it's something that my colleague will have to live with, since it's just visible rust and unlikely to hamper with the rest of the body.

Thanks all!!
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Hello All,

Writing for advice and help on my new Ford EcoSport. I booked the Ford Ecosport MOONDUST SILVER C/C MED SOLID on Jan 28th and since it was a latest model with 17 inch alloys the delivery was done on March 12, 2017.

I have seen a few issues and need suggestions from the forum. Any help/ escalation matrix would be helpful. I have registered an official complaint as well with Ford and the complaint number is {SrvReqNo:[0800143444]}

The vehicle has been purchased from SC ford, Mumbai, Linking Road, Malad.

On the brand new vehicle I see rust near the bolts and am worried that this would be there somewhere else on the Chassis. I usually get a 3M under body chassis coating done before it leaves the showroom as well. During a check I saw rust on the bolts and am worried if this is there somewhere else. I have no way to cross check if the chassis had rust at some other places and if the chassis is being eaten by rust.

Also, though I had asked this question earlier can someone help me verify the VIN. The VIN on my car is MAJAXXMRKAHJ06860. Does this mean that the chassis is a 2013 Chassis ?

1. How do I make sure my VIN is a 2017 manufacturing for the Chassis ?
2 How do I cross check if the Chassis is fine and there is no rust ?
3. What other options I have, as I know the dealer will not replace the vehicle ?

I have upload all the Pictures I have.

Any suggestions are welcome.

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On the brand new vehicle I see rust near the bolts
Rust near which bolts? Photos are not visible.
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