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Old 23rd February 2016, 14:47   #301
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Strange, but expected in Indian conditions. Customer satisfaction blows away in wind. I think they are just buying time.
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Old 31st May 2016, 18:42   #302
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Check with Anil of HotTracks. His other setup in Indiranagar BDA complex (next to bus depot) has 3M service. You can also check with Sundaram Motors at Kasturba Road. They also have 3M service.

Cost would be around 4500/-.
Based on what I have seen, KUV does not come with any anti corrosion coating for the underbelly. Having said that, the coating provided should be good enough for everyday condition (Unless you scrape it). If you are staying in a place where it rains a lot and you have to deal with standing water on the road, you could opt for a under body coating.

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Hi guys,

I got a Wagon R 2008, purchased second hand last year, planning to do under chassis coating, which comes around 3K with 3 years warranty.

Should I do it now or after monsoons.

Thanks,
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Hi guys,

I got a Wagon R 2008, purchased second hand last year, planning to do under chassis coating, which comes around 3K with 3 years warranty.

Should I do it now or after monsoons.

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Are you doing the 3M one? Per 3M, it takes 2-3 weeks for the coating to dry out completely. So I think you should do it post monsoon.
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Old 28th June 2016, 10:09   #305
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I have checked with
a. Mangesh Kalzunkar Max Shine, Thane 3K INR 3 years warranty
b. 3M,Thane 3.4K INR with 5 years warranty.

Mangesh tells me it will take 4 to 5 hours to dry out, 3M will do it 2 hours.

Every day it rains in Thane, and I don't have cover parking.

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Old 5th September 2016, 14:51   #306
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Have gone through all the posts here and am much confused.
Will my Maruti Celerio require this in Bangalore considering that my daily dose of off-roading is 2.5 Kms (nonexistent roads in my route) During rainy spells, I just don’t get the chance for underbody wash. Whatever the decision, would it make sense to apply to a brand new car that it is now.
1. For underbody coating, what are the inclusions / exclusions. Any part of door joints etc covered? 3M offers silencer coating separately. The worry is whether we suffer more damage without using or by using these products.

2. Are M.A.S.S capable of doing this or do they just outsource? Pratham Motors, Bellandur M.A.S.S are offering 10 years warranty for Rs. 3,750/- It is not 3M and at the moment I didn’t ask further details. How can there be a 10 years warranty for such a subjective product?

3. Is there need to recoat / touch up periodically? Older posts talk about this, not sure of latest.
3M says their coating is chip resistant, older posts talk about occurrence of chipping and touch up every 6 months. 3M link: http://carcarestores.3mindia.co.in/O.../Car-Underbody 3M Coat applied with Body Schutz gold gun (5 year Warranty) or Undershield gun( 2 year warranty. What’s the difference between the two)

4. What is covered/ not covered in warranty? Not much clarity on this. If anybody have recently got their brand new cars underbody coated from 3M kindly help.
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I was also looking for getting the anti rust treatment done from the HASS (They say its 3M) however have certain doubts.

-Is this coat applied to the entire underbody right from the engine area to the Boot?
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- Just over joints and welds under the body?
- what about the wheel wells and the suspension system (apart from free moving/rotating parts) ? are these also sprayed with this coat?

If anyone can point me in the right direction, it will help me get the best out the deal.

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-Is this coat applied to the entire underbody right from the engine area to the Boot?
- You can either go with HASS or FNG for this. But if its FNG, you will have more options with products. Underbody coating has many categories. Sound Dampening, Heat Protection, Anti Rust etc. The one that I did for my car is Sound Dampening + Anti Rust. Spraying normal coating near engine will cause them to peel due to heat. So, avoid spraying on exhaust pipes, sumps, engine block.


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- Just over joints and welds under the body?
- Entire underbody.

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- what about the wheel wells and the suspension system (apart from free moving/rotating parts) ? are these also sprayed with this coat?
- Not very positive. I did that and saw it peeling after a highway ride during monsoon. The crud from road will slowly eat the coating from the wheelwell since most of new gen cars have plastic cladding and these coatings do not adhere good with plastics.


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If anyone can point me in the right direction, it will help me get the best out the deal.
- If you are doing 3M, leave it to them. They know how much to spray and where cause most A.S.S will be very stringent with the number of cans used for the cost paid. FNG will be happy to do double coats provided you source the materials.
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Thank you Prithm for that response. The morons at the HASS tried to dupe me by saying its done only on the welded parts. Little did they know that I have an entire community of enthusiasts to help out.
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I recently got anti rust coating and paint protection coating done from Koncept Mahindra in Noida for my Scorpio under Mahindra's Maxicare program which also included engine coating and silencer coating.

Before getting it done I had asked the Mahindra customer care about the products being used for this job.
They replied that the dealers are allowed to use 3M, Opulent, Bardahl and Mekuba products only.

However, the said dealer used the usual cheap stuff and sprays which I realized only later on.
Plus the job done was of extremely poor quality and I had to literally stand and direct those guys to get the job done properly.
I, then, clicked photos of the products used and sent them to Mahindra.
Still waiting for their revert.
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So after a number of days I finally did receive a call from Mahindra and the guy said that the issue will be resolved.
But actually nothing can be done practically.
These practices will continue unless Mahindra cracks a whip on the dealerships.
I'm attaching pics of the products used in the Maxicare.

All in all I'd suggest staying away from the protection programs provided by the car maker and go for professional ones like 3M, etc.

Also we can clearly see that the Mahindra guidelines are not followed by the dealers and there's nothing that Mahindra can do since dealers like Koncept are quite big and have multiple showrooms and workshops.
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Old 3rd April 2017, 08:55   #312
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So after a long communication and wait, finally a meeting was called for me with the Koncept GM sales, GM service and Würth representative (since the tie up for the coatings is with Würth).

They didn't seem apologetic but said that they would get the coating done again with the recommended products.
I wasn't very convinced with coating on top of coating but still chose to get it done since the Würth guy assured me that it would be done very professionally (which should have been done in the first place itself).

They used Mekuba products this time for the Underbody and Top Body.

GM Sales asked me in private that which products were used the last time.
I showed him the pics.
Then he told me that the contract has been given to Würth and normally they take care of it and money is paid directly to them.
Now because of this malpractice an audit will be done by Koncept's maintenance department.
I don't know whether they are actually going to do anything or not, seems unlikely.
I also suspect that the dealer and Würth must be in on all of this to avoid buying original products.
A large number of people don't bother with checking all this or getting the job done in front of their eyes due to lack of time, knowledge, etc so this creates an easy atmosphere for them to do all this.

So overall a bad experience.
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A large number of people don't bother with checking all this or getting the job done in front of their eyes due to lack of time, knowledge, etc so this creates an easy atmosphere for them to do all this.
So overall a bad experience.
This is the bare bone truth. Many of us are ushered to sit in the A/C Waiting Room and given cosy sofa's, cool drinks and TV and Newspaper, Magazines (sometime with Free WiFi) and we forget the world outside.

I have known cases where paid services were nothing but wash and wax car. I have even crossed swords with few floor managers that I refuse to sit and would prefer to sweat with the mechanic to see what really is going on with my car and understand basic mechanics and what toll has the rough Indian roads taken on my hard earned depreciating investment.
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At one time post purchase anti-rust coating was de rigeour. Today it has fallen out of use, why, cars are much better put together. So unless you are right next to the sea you can happily forget it. At one time brands like Ziebart and Dinitrol were very popular in the UK. The seem to have all fallen by the wayside.
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This is the bare bone truth. Many of us are ushered to sit in the A/C Waiting Room and given cosy sofa's, cool drinks and TV and Newspaper, Magazines (sometime with Free WiFi) and we forget the world outside.

I have known cases where paid services were nothing but wash and wax car. I have even crossed swords with few floor managers that I refuse to sit and would prefer to sweat with the mechanic to see what really is going on with my car and understand basic mechanics and what toll has the rough Indian roads taken on my hard earned depreciating investment.
I, too, prefer standing for the whole time near the car.
A lot of times I need to correct them or ask to do something in a different way.

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At one time post purchase anti-rust coating was de rigeour. Today it has fallen out of use, why, cars are much better put together. So unless you are right next to the sea you can happily forget it. At one time brands like Ziebart and Dinitrol were very popular in the UK. The seem to have all fallen by the wayside.
But even in a new car if you see the underside you can see bare metal at many places.
I don't know whether there's any invisible coating on that or not.
Some sections may be made of alloys which are less prone to corrosion.
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