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Old 13th January 2011, 11:39   #1
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Default Unsure about values after wheel alignment

Have attached 2 jpgs of the alignment output readings of my Fiesta.
The first alignment was done when I bought new tires, the 2nd alignment 5k kms later.

After aligning a couple of days ago, I went back home to compare the results to the earlier one.
Was shocked to see that the base data input was different for each test!
(Highlighted in yellow)

The entire point of aligning is lost if the setting themselves are incorrect.

FRONT - 1st test :
Range : 0.07 to 0.17
Final setting : 0.12

FRONT - 2nd test :
Range : 0.01 to 0.11
Final setting : 0.03

Both final settings are OUTSIDE the range limits.
Which is the correct range?

Guys, pl ensure you check this when you get your car's alignment done.

Which brings me to my next question.
Should one only allow the A.S.S to do the car's alignment?
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Old 13th January 2011, 12:38   #2
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Default Re: SHOCK after car's alignment

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The entire point of aligning is lost if the setting themselves are incorrect.

FRONT - 1st test :
Range : 0.07 to 0.17
Final setting : 0.12

FRONT - 2nd test :
Range : 0.01 to 0.11
Final setting : 0.03

Both final settings are OUTSIDE the range limits.
Isn't .12 between .07 and .17 ? Same goes for the second entry.

Why do you feel it is out of range?
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Old 13th January 2011, 12:50   #3
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Default Re: SHOCK after car's alignment

Are you saying that as per the initial report the should be around .12' and that the current reading of .03' is out of the initial range specified of .07 and .17?

Makes sense, however I am not sure what the company specs are for this Fiesta, Looks like one or both of them may have got the min and max wrong.
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Oh, Now I see what you are saying... The second report appears to be based on 2004 Fiesta data. But Fiesta came in 2005. May be it is for Ikon.

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Isn't .12 between .07 and .17 ? Same goes for the second entry.

Why do you feel it is out of range?
I guess what Hatari means is, if you consider the base range of the second test as correct, then the reading on the first test was out of range.

And if you consider the base range of the first test as correct, then the final reading on the second test becomes out of range.

So his question - Which is the correct range?

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Old 13th January 2011, 13:17   #6
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I don't understand your problem!?!

Logics would tell that the alignment will change due to the wonderful roads the authorities supply. Additionally a lot of people like kerb crawling and run over speed breakers. I am surprised that after 5k the settings are not even worse.
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I guess what Hatari means is, if you consider the base range of the second test as correct, then the reading on the first test was out of range.

And if you consider the base range of the first test as correct, then the final reading on the second test becomes out of range.

So his question - Which is the correct range?

Cheers,
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Bingo.

CPH -
The problem is that the recommended range setting is different at both tests
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Hatari,

One question though - Were both the alignments done at the same place?

In my case when I had got my Fiesta alignment done in May 2010 from outside A.S.S. the range for the Front toe left was 0.7 to 1.8 mm and the final setting was 1.2mm. This was for Vehicle alignment report which read for Ford 2006 Fiesta (customized). I dont have the alignment details done in Nov 2010 from Ford A.S.S but will surely check and confirm.
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Fiesta Specs (from Nikhil's post)


Front:

Camber: -0deg 30'. Tolerance of +- 1deg 15'

Caster: 3deg 30'. Tolerance of : +-1deg

Total Toe: 0deg 24' (+-10')

Rear:

Camber: -1deg 08'. Tolerance of +-1deg 15'

Total Toe: -0deg 32' . Tolerance of +-10'

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ml#post1240991 (Wheel Alignment Data for Ford Fiesta)
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Hatari,

One question though - Were both the alignments done at the same place?

In my case when I had got my Fiesta alignment done in May 2010 from outside A.S.S. the range for the Front toe left was 0.7 to 1.8 mm and the final setting was 1.2mm. This was for Vehicle alignment report which read for Ford 2006 Fiesta (customized). I dont have the alignment details done in Nov 2010 from Ford A.S.S but will surely check and confirm.
Yes, though the 2nd was from a newly opened center by the same owner/chain.

thanks for the link kpzen
the Fiesta's rear setting cannot be altered

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