Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Technical Stuff


View Poll Results: Is your Skoda Reliable?
I have had No Major Issues with my non DSG Skoda. 40 55.56%
I have had Major Issues with my non DSG Skoda. 9 12.50%
I have had No Major Issues with my DSG Skoda. 11 15.28%
I have had Only DSG issues with my 6 speed DSG 3 4.17%
I have had Only DSG issues with my 7 speed DSG. 8 11.11%
I have had Major Issues with my DSG Skoda other than the DSG. 5 6.94%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 1st September 2011, 20:01   #61
BHPian
 
ishlinea7260's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ambala
Posts: 294
Thanked: 245 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Just went through ivar1951's thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2489715 (My silver steed is here -- Skoda Superb 1.8 TSI A/T)
Apparently the new mechatronic is improved over the previous version.
Question is shall one opt for the new one while still in the warranty period or is it a case of "if it ain't broken don't fix it"
ishlinea7260 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th September 2011, 13:46   #62
Senior - BHPian
 
n.devdath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 3,721
Thanked: 1,296 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Popular TBHPian Yeti's Superb too has had a Mechatronix issue. It is a petrol Superb just done 25k on the odo.

The unit was replaced under warranty and the car is back on the road but the question here is:

Are today's Skodas trustworthy to be taken across the country in all road and all weather conditions with the family?
n.devdath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2011, 10:22   #63
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Delhi/Chandigarh
Posts: 289
Thanked: 7 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by n.devdath View Post
Are today's Skodas trustworthy to be taken across the country in all road and all weather conditions with the family?
Yes, what with having forgotten your mobile at home!
ivar1951 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2011, 12:50   #64
BHPian
 
luky_13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 578
Thanked: 116 Times
Default Flash of Death!

VW had issues with the DSG on many models between 2007 and 2010, apart from Skoda other VW brands/models were effected - TT, R32, GTI, Jetta. In US this phenomenon was popularly known as 'Flash of Death'. A large number of premature DSG-Mechatronics failure cases were reported in America, Europe and India, with issues hovering around:
  • Sudden lack of motive power
  • Auto-shift to neutral in motion
  • Jerkiness while auto-shifting
In July 2009 the NHTSA opened an investigation into the case, Defect Investigations Results | Safercar.gov | NHTSA. VW announced a recall twice of more than 66,000 (13,500 + 53,000) DSG boxes in Aug, 2009. Although I don't have concrete information on hand but I believe post late 2010 this DSG issue was fixed. VW has now extended the warranty on DSG to 10 years or 100,000 miles (only in the States).

Following is the analysis summary...
Quote:
VOLKSWAGEN DESCRIBED A POTENTIAL DEFECT IN THE WIRING HARNESSES OF THE DSG GEARBOX TEMPERATURE SENSORS USED IN APPROXIMATELY 16,000 MODEL YEAR (MY) 2009 AND 2010 VOLKSWAGEN (EOS, JETTA AND GTI) AND AUDI (A3 AND TT/TT ROADSTER) VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH DSG TRANSMISSIONS AND BUILT FROM SEPTEMBER 2008 THROUGH AUGUST 2009 (NHTSA RECALL NO. 09V-333, VOLKSWAGEN RECALL NO. 37E3/S7 AND AUDI RECALL NO 37E4/J7). VOLKSWAGEN PROVIDED THIS DESCRIPTION OF THE DEFECT, "THE WIRING HARNESS OF A TEMPERATURE SENSOR IN THE DSG MAY HAVE CONNECTOR WIRES THAT WERE INSUFFICIENTLY CRIMPED BY THE CONNECTOR SUPPLIER DURING A LIMITED PRODUCTION PERIOD. WITH INSUFFICIENTLY CRIMPED CONNECTOR WIRES, A TEMPERATURE SENSOR HAS THE POTENTIAL TO FALSELY DETECT A HIGH GEARBOX OIL TEMPERATURE, CAUSING THE TRANSMISSION TO ABRUPTLY SHIFT TO NEUTRAL.
luky_13 is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2011, 13:02   #65
Senior - BHPian
 
n.devdath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 3,721
Thanked: 1,296 Times
Default Re: Flash of Death!

Quote:
Originally Posted by luky_13 View Post
Although I don't have concrete information on hand but I believe post late 2010 this DSG issue was fixed. VW has now extended the warranty on DSG to 10 years or 100,000 miles (only in the States).
This is interesting. So it essentially means that DSG issues were of a pretty high intensity and a lot of consumers were affected.

I wish the issue is really fixed post 2010 DSGs. Skoda will lose out on a lot of potential customers if the issue persists.

Are there any other failures that Skodas are known for apart from this unit?

I haven't heard of any major ones.

Last edited by n.devdath : 13th September 2011 at 13:12.
n.devdath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2011, 13:31   #66
Team-BHP Support
 
tsk1979's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 22,774
Thanked: 15,278 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Interesting.
So fearing the law they give 10 year warranty in states, but people here still have to do with hefty repair bills once the 2 year warranty runs out.
tsk1979 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2011, 13:39   #67
Senior - BHPian
 
Swanand Inamdar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,649
Thanked: 571 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

I had made a similar point on Sam's thread - Is'nt it unfair that Skoda charges us customers for a part that has known issues. Lucky for Sam that his car was in warranty. What about those, whose car is'nt? 1 lac isnt a small amount by any means.

Skoda needs to do something about this. Or is it India that needs to introduce stricter law's?
Swanand Inamdar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th September 2011, 02:39   #68
Senior - BHPian
 
V-16's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: mumbai
Posts: 4,569
Thanked: 829 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsk1979 View Post
Interesting.
So fearing the law they give 10 year warranty in states, but people here still have to do with hefty repair bills once the 2 year warranty runs out.
yes exactly. And mind you, the number of failures out of warranty period far exceed the ones in warranty.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanand Inamdar View Post
I had made a similar point on Sam's thread - Is'nt it unfair that Skoda charges us customers for a part that has known issues. Lucky for Sam that his car was in warranty. What about those, whose car is'nt? 1 lac isnt a small amount by any means.

Skoda needs to do something about this. Or is it India that needs to introduce stricter law's?
What im appalled at are the journos. while i had to write to every auto mag in the country (with only three replying back saying they were going to bring it to the notice of Skoda and actually only two did something, they all continue to write rave reviews about the Skodas and say nothing about failing DSGs. I had to pay pleny of money for my Laura DSG failure at 70,000 kms at it had lapsed the two year warranty period. It was a 2006 and im pretty sure there was no warranty back then. So will the so called honest journos do something about it and force Skoda to back up their defects with a world matching warranty. They did not get the Dsg box for the Vento citing some bull story about the Vento would be too expensive. The fact is they were too scared no one would buy the Vento, if one Dsg failure occurred. Skoda may have replaced my Mechatronic free but they were forced to do it by my letters, top journo intervention. I will still think they are a pack of thieves making a fast buck from innocent buyers. Caveat Emptor!!
V-16 is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 15th September 2011, 04:22   #69
Senior - BHPian
 
n.devdath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 3,721
Thanked: 1,296 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanand Inamdar View Post
Skoda needs to do something about this. Or is it India that needs to introduce stricter law's?
IMO it is India and Indian consumers who need to wake up to their rights and get stricter laws not only passed but also enforced and complied to.

With Lauras and Superbs doing good sales numbers, mainly due to the positives they have, it is time Skoda pro actively offered the 10 year/100,000km warranty on its DSGs in India as well.
It would do a world of good to Skoda too.
n.devdath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th September 2011, 07:54   #70
Team-BHP Support
 
noopster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 8,496
Thanked: 8,851 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

@V-16: you're spot-on. I wouldn't have bought the Vento if it had a DSG box, too risky!
noopster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th May 2012, 12:14   #71
Senior - BHPian
 
n.devdath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 3,721
Thanked: 1,296 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Ok, I have new DSG failure to report.

This time, unfortunately it is a 6 speed DSG which was known to be better than the 7 speed ones. The car is a Superb purchased in April and driven only 1000kms in Pune.

The car has been transported to the Skoda w/s at Wagholi and the status is awaited.
n.devdath is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 14th May 2012, 20:24   #72
BHPian
 
Cesc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Philly, Gurgaon
Posts: 621
Thanked: 240 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by n.devdath View Post
Ok, I have new DSG failure to report.

This time, unfortunately it is a 6 speed DSG which was known to be better than the 7 speed ones. The car is a Superb purchased in April and driven only 1000kms in Pune.

The car has been transported to the Skoda w/s at Wagholi and the status is awaited.
April this year? As in 2012? Holy cow. That's a new benchmark in un-reliability.
Cesc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th May 2012, 15:16   #73
BHPian
 
Shubhendra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Poona
Posts: 948
Thanked: 1,105 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanand Inamdar View Post
I had made a similar point on Sam's thread - Is'nt it unfair that Skoda charges us customers for a part that has known issues. Lucky for Sam that his car was in warranty. What about those, whose car is'nt? 1 lac isnt a small amount by any means.

Skoda needs to do something about this. Or is it India that needs to introduce stricter law's?
Dear Swanand, Gogi bhai and all,
Little bit OT, but my friend's Superb is out of road from last 2 months due to gearbox failure. Vehicle is not in warranty and he has given his car to some mechanic in Mumbai. Mechanic told him that total expenditure would be around 1.6 to 1.8 lacs.
I just want to know, is there any competent mechanic in Mumbai who can work on it and how much money we will have to pay for gearbox change/repair.

Shubhendra Singh
Shubhendra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th May 2012, 15:42   #74
Senior - BHPian
 
Swanand Inamdar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,649
Thanked: 571 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Shubhendra, I'm not too sure about a qualified mechanic in Bombay. The only person I know is the dealer - JMD Auto. Thats it.
You could possibly PM Gogi or someone from Mumbai who could probably guide you to a competant mechanic.

However, the total expenditure does sound somewhat right. The expenses are a lac+ in such a case.

EDIT:
Is it possible to get the car in Pune? I do know of a few mechanics here. Could PM you the details if need be.

Last edited by Swanand Inamdar : 15th May 2012 at 15:45. Reason: Added text
Swanand Inamdar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th May 2012, 18:29   #75
BHPian
 
Cesc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Philly, Gurgaon
Posts: 621
Thanked: 240 Times
Default Re: Skoda Woes And The Ghost Of The Mechatronics!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shubhendra View Post
My friend's Superb is out of road from last 2 months due to gearbox failure. Vehicle is not in warranty and he has given his car to some mechanic in Mumbai. Mechanic told him that total expenditure would be around 1.6 to 1.8 lacs.
Is this a manual or an automatic? If manual then price looks on the higher side. I have 'heard' that a new manual gearbox for Superb can be sourced for around 1.2L. If AT then it looks on the lower side (for a AT gearbox replacement).
Cesc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A barber who owns a Rolls Royce Ghost and a fleet of other cars Pancham Shifting gears 19 3rd March 2017 08:50
DSG Mechatronics Failures: Are we driving them wrongly? SS-Traveller Technical Stuff 140 25th May 2015 12:48
Mercedes-Benz: Advanced Diploma in Automotive Mechatronics @ Kerala GTO Technical Stuff 10 1st February 2014 08:43
Repeat EXAMM! The ghost of 1st low vs 2nd low descent haunts us again... and how! Tejas@perioimpl 4x4 Excursions 41 23rd September 2010 14:16
Pathetic service from Skoda and Fabia woes. EDIT : Got FULL refund from Skoda Gaurav Mathur Indian Car Dealerships 80 11th August 2010 01:49


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 03:18.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks