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Old 30th September 2011, 09:16   #91
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Update:: Hazards of the road

While coming to office today from Koramangala, i heard some noise coming from the right front tyre, a quick inspection at one signal did not reveal a puncture as the tire was completely inflated. However, the clanking noise continued, i thought it might be some stone as the Bridgestones are a stone magnet as they get stuck in the threads, upon reaching the office i checked again and saw a 1inch piece of thick metal wire stuck in the tire. I was shocked but i was still smiling as i got the first taste of using a tubeless tire, as the tire was still completely inflated. I pulled out the piece but the air was still intact so i assume that the piece did not protrude the inner walls.

However, i still think i should get it checked, can a regular tubeless puncture wala check the tire? This brings me to another question, how good are the tubeless slime that you get in the market which is supposed to be put inside the tire, does it hamper high speed stability, these questions are in the wake of a long 2k kms travel coming up by the end of next month.
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First Time speeding

After driving in complete traffic all these days after the 1st service yesterday got the chance to stretch the car a little bit. Did some 130 for about half a minute and did not even realize that the car was doing that much. With windows rolled up one will not realize such high speeds.

This makes me wonder how fast can one cover the NH4 stretch till hubli when i have a trip lined up to goa. But NICE road isnt nice any longer with lots of undulations and bumps.
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Hey mm, how's it going? How's car after first service? Mine has done 950 now,and may be due sometime next week. Cant think of any problem as such. Looks like there is a slight pulling to left,but only if you really observe. Not annoying me till now. Did you have this problem? What do they do in first service? Am planning at old madras road.
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I am the proud owner of a AURA + (as it was called then) the top end Diesel variant of TATA Indigo Manza, since April 2, 2010.

Over 25,000 kms on the odometer, many many long road trips and many many services completed at Concorde Motors, Mysore Road, Bangalore centre.

Have been watching the posts on and off and am making my first comments today.

It has been a wonderful experience with the vehicle so far. The History of vehicles owned date back to the Maruti 800 - (1992-1994), Honda Accord - (Abroad - 2002-2003), Mitsubishi Lancer - (Abroad - 2003-2004), Toyota Camry (Abroad - 2004-2006), Ford Explorer (2006-2008) and Toyota FJ Cruiser (Abroad - 2008-2010). Having extensively test driven almost all Sedans/Saloons/SUV's in their respective & comparative classes before each purchase, the decision to buy the Manza was reached after a lot of thought, research, comparisons et.al.

I am not going to wax eloquent about all the good things and point out the bad things in this post as various other posts have probably said everything that needs to be said about the vehicle. Will rest the case by saying - Have not regretted it for even one day of my ownership now!

I have recommended the vehicle to whosoever has deigned to ask about it and the ones who have purchased it are equally happy about it.
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I am the proud owner of a AURA + (as it was called then) the top end Diesel variant of TATA Indigo Manza, since April 2, 2010.

Over 25,000 kms on the odometer, many many long road trips and many many services completed at Concorde Motors, Mysore Road, Bangalore centre.

Have been watching the posts on and off and am making my first comments today.

It has been a wonderful experience with the vehicle so far. The History of vehicles owned date back to the Maruti 800 - (1992-1994), Honda Accord - (Abroad - 2002-2003), Mitsubishi Lancer - (Abroad - 2003-2004), Toyota Camry (Abroad - 2004-2006), Ford Explorer (2006-2008) and Toyota FJ Cruiser (Abroad - 2008-2010). Having extensively test driven almost all Sedans/Saloons/SUV's in their respective & comparative classes before each purchase, the decision to buy the Manza was reached after a lot of thought, research, comparisons et.al.

I am not going to wax eloquent about all the good things and point out the bad things in this post as various other posts have probably said everything that needs to be said about the vehicle. Will rest the case by saying - Have not regretted it for even one day of my ownership now!

I have recommended the vehicle to whosoever has deigned to ask about it and the ones who have purchased it are equally happy about it.
I too own a Manza Aura along with a Safari. How about the servicing cost at 25,000 KMS ? Is it only oil change that you paid for ? I sincerely hope so
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Will rest the case by saying - Have not regretted it for even one day of my ownership now!

I have recommended the vehicle to whosoever has deigned to ask about it and the ones who have purchased it are equally happy about it.
I stand Vindicated !

Its wonderful to know that a veteran who has diversified exeperince in driving has chosen to buy a car that I too bought. BTW, Welcome to Team Bhp. I'm all ears for what you got to say about Manza. I just crossed 1000 km, and have booked the first service on friday. Thanks.
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How about the servicing cost at 25,000 KMS ?
Power Ranger: Have to take it for the 25K service, will update on this thread ASAP

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Its wonderful to know that a veteran who has diversified exeperince in driving has chosen to buy a car that I too bought. BTW, Welcome to Team Bhp.
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Good Buy! As mentioned in an earlier post, virtually everything has been said and repeated.

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I just crossed 1000 km, and have booked the first service on friday. Thanks.
Enjoy! My experience with Concorde @ Mysore Road has been exemplary. As a generic rule for all my erstwhile servicing too, I go to the centre and ask for the best service advisor. For all subsequent servicing/niggles adjustment, I ensure that I ask for that service advisor by name, helps from familiarity, better service delivery and promptness in vehicle delivery. TATA Motors from Pune will call you after the service and ask you to rate, have always given him 10/10 and he knows it.....

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However, i still think i should get it checked, can a regular tubeless puncture wala check the tire? This brings me to another question, how good are the tubeless slime that you get in the market which is supposed to be put inside the tire, does it hamper high speed stability, these questions are in the wake of a long 2k kms travel coming up by the end of next month.
Yes, you must get it checked. tubeless have a funny way of getting deflated over a period of time. Also, to your other question, the standard tubeless puncher kit you get is good enuf. just ensure you buy it from a trust soruce so you are aware that its not bad material. cut off wahtever is coming out of the tyre surface, and you should be good to go!
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Yes, you must get it checked. tubeless have a funny way of getting deflated over a period of time. Also, to your other question, the standard tubeless puncher kit you get is good enuf. just ensure you buy it from a trust soruce so you are aware that its not bad material. cut off wahtever is coming out of the tyre surface, and you should be good to go!
Still have not gotten around to get this done, running on the spare as of now, need to go this week as next week i would be traveling with the car.
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3000 kms completed today

Today Mr.Toothless, yes we renamed it Toothless as the headlight cluster makes it look like the nightfury of "How to Train a Dragon". It finally completed 3000 kms today after a quick drive to Puttaparty which was for some 330kms.

It sure is a planted car maybe due to its kerb weight of 1200kgs. Despite rains heavy to moderate the car always looked in complete control with just the correct heaviness of the steering. I was able to cruise effortlessly at around 120-130. The best part was no tiredness at all like we used to feel in the Zen.

One thing i noticed is at there seems to be a slight jerky action from the car around 2700 to 2900 rpm range from 3rd gear onwards. Not sure why it was happening but taking the car to service station tomorrow. Since i would be traveling again to Goa on monday do not want to take any chances.

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3000 kms completed today

Today Mr.Toothless, yes we renamed it Toothless as the headlight cluster makes it look like the nightfury of "How to Train a Dragon". It finally completed 3000 kms today after a quick drive to Puttaparty which was for some 330kms.

It sure is a planted car maybe due to its kerb weight of 1200kgs. Despite rains heavy to moderate the car always looked in complete control with just the correct heaviness of the steering. I was able to cruise effortlessly at around 120-130. The best part was no tiredness at all like we used to feel in the Zen.

One thing i noticed is at there seems to be a slight jerky action from the car around 2700 to 2900 rpm range from 3rd gear onwards. Not sure why it was happening but taking the car to service station tomorrow. Since i would be traveling again to Goa on monday do not want to take any chances.
4800 kms Complete

Yes, its true, so many miles in so less time, mainly due to couple of trips the major one being Goa on 31st Oct.

The problem mentioned above was rectified as air filter & injector blockage but the problem resurfaced again on Monday during the drive. This jerk kinda thing is felt only at around the 2800 rpm mark in 3rd gear onwards. The SA has asked to come again on Tuesday so lets see whats the diagnosis.

Apart from the above issue the 700 odd km drive was a breeze especially on NH4. The Toothless gave quite a few innova's a run for their money specially one who was making overtaking him a little difficult only to be passed after a few kms with the speedo around 160 mark, Toothless still had a lot more juice left. That brought a wide smile that might have been seen by the Innova driver
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5500 kms Update

Yes 2 months and already due for the 2nd service. This has been mainly due to 2 trips to Mysore, 1 to Puttaparti, 1 to Goa, and 1 to Ooty.

Well i guess i can be welcomed to the rattle club of Manza, as I am hearing a small rattle from somewhere behind the MID or the Speedo console, since the 2nd service is due i plan to get that sorted.

Only major issue that i am observing is the jerk in the engine between 2500 to 3000rpm mark this mainly happens between 3rd to 5th gear. The SA confirmed that the last time i had complained about this it was mainly due to clog in air filter due to water, i sure hope its not a major issue cause i dont want water going inside the cylinders.

Apart from the above issue the car has been a breeze to use and drive around be it Bangalore's notorious traffic or the open highways, the turbo is really really adictive on the highway, i really enjoyed last nights drive back on Mysore road, wherein i would maintain a steady 80 or 90 and when required or some bugger who bugs you, just tap the accelerator and the Manza zooms ahead releasing all of its 90 horses.

If someone is planning to buy a mid sized Diesel sedan within 8L mainly for highway runs then I would vouch for the Manza as its Very very easy to overtake on the highway and cruise and higher speeds as and when our highways allow.
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Only major issue that i am observing is the jerk in the engine between 2500 to 3000rpm mark this mainly happens between 3rd to 5th gear. The SA confirmed that the last time i had complained about this it was mainly due to clog in air filter due to water, i sure hope its not a major issue cause i dont want water going inside the cylinders.

Apart from the above issue the car has been a breeze to use and drive around be it Bangalore's notorious traffic or the open highways, the turbo is really really adictive on the highway, i really enjoyed last nights drive back on Mysore road, wherein i would maintain a steady 80 or 90 and when required or some bugger who bugs you, just tap the accelerator and the Manza zooms ahead releasing all of its 90 horses.

If someone is planning to buy a mid sized Diesel sedan within 8L mainly for highway runs then I would vouch for the Manza as its Very very easy to overtake on the highway and cruise and higher speeds as and when our highways allow.
I too faced the same sudden surge / jerk in power at 5.2k Odo reading and before my second service. Got the similar treatment of cleaning the Air filter with dry air.i.e by placing a clean cloth on the mouth of the air gun and then vow, the difference was really visible. The entire 90 horses were delivered very smoothly between 2.5k to 3.5k rpm.
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I too faced the same sudden surge / jerk in power at 5.2k Odo reading and before my second service. Got the similar treatment of cleaning the Air filter with dry air.i.e by placing a clean cloth on the mouth of the air gun and then vow, the difference was really visible. The entire 90 horses were delivered very smoothly between 2.5k to 3.5k rpm.
Well this looks like a similar issue that i am facing. the SA said that they had cleaned the filter when i reported it earlier but the issue has again cropped up so i suspect that the filter box or something is sucking in water or maybe a new filter might be required. They had said that injectors were also cleaned. The bill showed that.
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@motomaverick,

Ask the technician to cover the opening of the air gun/ nozzle with a clean cloth. This would absorb any kind of moisture present, possiblly in the compressor out let / storage tank.

Also, check if the guy while cleaning engine bay is using any light spary/ jet of water. This might also be a possible cause.
It is strictly instructed by Fiat - Not to clean the engine bay/ under hood with water jets. No matter how light or slow the water jet is. Instead use dry air jets to clean all the dust away from the bay and wipe off any hard sludge/ dried out mud with soft brushes if required.
Same applies to all QJT/ MJT/ DDIS engines.
I got this info from the S.A.
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