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Old 16th February 2012, 15:30   #31
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Congratulations! The caaaar is really a good caaar from all perspectives. I have taken multiple TDs of the Sunny and everytime I felt that the car is totally worth the mullah.

There are few amazing stories of Nissan A.S.S. on TBHP, which are really encouraging for those who are thinking of purchasing a Nissan vehicle. Also, those who would use the car 70-80% inside the city, really should not bother much about A.S.S. IMO. Anyways, Nissan has a much better reputation/brand image internationally which is still unknown to the layman here.

BTW, aroonanand, you need to upload some interior pics too. The thread won't be complete otherwise.

Keep the thread alive please. This is probably the first and only one ownership thread on Sunny on TBHP as yet. Prospective buyers will look forward to the updates from you.

Wishing you many happy miles with the caaar!
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Congraaatulations on the purchase of the most sensible diesel car in the C Segment.

Nissan Sunny is bigger than many C + Segment cars and i would have bought it if i were to be chauffeured around.

Wishing you many many kilometers of safe and peaceful ownership experience.
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Congratulations Aroon. Wish you many happy miles with the CAAAAAAR

Your report, besides being extremely precise, gives me the opportunity to request your opinion on my specific Diesel dillemma: should I be content with Fiesta Classic base variant or save for a another couple of months to go for the Sunny XL? I have a 93k run Santro giving me 18 kmpl, and am planning to upgrade to a sedan. My wife needs a car for short city drives and dad is going to retire this year - losing the company car.

The equation currently works out to:

Sunny Diesel XL = Fiesta Classic Diesel LXi + Nano LX (if I trade in my sparingly used scooter) + LPG on Santro. While I stretch, I might as well put in some more Vit. M.

Is the Sunny good enough to let go of the extra car? Is the Fiesta good enough to last another 8-9 years (from Ford support and spares cost POV)?
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Aroon, congratulations on owning the caaaaaaaaaaaar ! you beat me to the first position on team bhp. I'll join you shortly
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I have a feeling that the gist of my statement above was not correctly interpreted. What I meant was that unlike Toyota and Honda which are good in their own way of doing things, Nissan as a car company has never designed its products to meet a figure specified by number crunchers. Rather, their philosophy like Mitsubishi and Subaru has been to create automobiles that are an extension of the drivers themselves and bring an unexplainable sense of satisfaction every time the wheels churn.

In my books the above three Japanese marquees viz. Mitsubishi, Nissan & Subaru are more desirable than the Teutonic trio as the offerings from Nippon give you all of the pleasure and satisfaction that is automotive nirvana but without the pretense and the expense associated with the German trio.

The Toyotas and Hondas of the World while being as reliable as their other Japanese cousins are well not in the same league as far as driving pleasure is concerned.
Thanks for the clarification; my apologies I misinterpreted your post for sure.. Cant agree more with you - as you stated, Nissan, Mitsubishi and Subaru are known to create different cars for different needs, covering a wide range in itself... Unlike Toyota and Honda, which while very good in their own rights, are known for reliable and efficient vehicles...

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Congrats on getting yourself the Caaaarrrrr aroonanand. I did an extensive test drive of the Sunny Diesel last month and, in my opinion, the following are the car's biggest strengths:

* Loads of Interior Space (You will never run out of space for anything - the Caaarrrr is huge)
* Breeze to drive inside the city (No turbo lag and good low-end torque making life easier)
* Terrific Fuel-Efficiency (The engine is as frugal as it can get for a mid-sized car)

Here is wishing you miles and miles of happy motoring in this car. I am sure you are going to go for extended long drives as the Sunny Diesel just keeps going on and on with a tank-full of diesel.
Thanks Arvi, and I echo your thoughts... Despite driving a small car all these years, I now find the Sunny easier to handle in the bumper to bumper traffic of Bangalore... And the car has returned a To-date FE of over 20 kmpl based on the 600+ kms I have done (this does include 400 kms of highway driving though).. Wont be surprised of the city FE is in the late teens.... which is wonderful given the 12-13 I get on the Santro...

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@Aroonanand

Congratulations on the Caaaaar. The colour looks rocking on the ride. The car has got lots of space and looks great from outside, have seen a couple of them in my city and does turn the heads. I know you had a highway drive, hows the ride in the city? Hows the handling part? Hows the ride at the rear seats?

What are the stock tyres on the car, is it JK Vectra? If you feel the nosie is an issue, you can get them replaced with Michelin ones. I also differ on the Ac being noisy in Fiesta coz I own one and never felt the AC noise at all.

Happy mile crunching and drive safely. Waiting for your interior pics.
Thanks mate.... On city ride, I have found it to be extremely good so far... Handles the bumps and potholes reasonably well and no real issue with ground clearance so far... Very good low end torque and absolutely no turbo lag.. Very linear power delivery... And the super power steering makes city driving / parking in tight spots easy indeed... I have not sat at the rear and so cannot talk much about that... My parents and wife have sat at the rear and dont have any complaints so far....

Stock tyres are JK... Thanks for the tip on Michelin upgrade to reduce tyre noise... Not contemplated it for now, will consider when the tyres wear out.. The noise is definitely not a deal breaker in any case... On the Fiesta AC, maybe the TD car which I got had a noisy blower in that case then !!!

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Congratulations on getting the carrrrr

I remember you were following the Sunny quite closely from the begining and nice to see that you took the plunge.

Though I havent driven the diesel version its a pleasure to know that it has the same characteristics of the Micra ( zero turbolag) Manza ( loads of space at back) and better frugal characteristics than the Logan

Look forward to regular updates on the car and hope the gearbox and brake feel improves as you clock more miles and post a few services.

Cheers and Drive Safe !!!
Thanks Mobike008, Yes, I was keenly tracking the SUnny from Sep 2011 and TD the petrol on the day it was launched !!! Am glad I bought this car, so far atleast and am happy with it... Will post updates on improvements in gear box as the car does more kms....

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Congratulations on getting your CAAAR

Must complement your choice of the color. It sure looks elegant in gray. Definitely C+ segment looks and with lots of space it will sure keep you happy.

You mentioned rides on the highway were pretty comfortable does it drive well in the touch-and-go traffic in the city. Do you need to downshift frequently?

Look forward to reading your future updates. By the way any plans for better shoes?
Thanks Arup... Yes, the car drives well in the city too..... Low end torque and lack of turbo lag with linear power delivery helps it... Not faced any issues in touch and go traffic, and no real need to downshift too unless you want to zoom ahead of other vehicles....

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Big Congo for the new Caaar.
For sure a great choice. I am sure you must be really happy to chose a Diesel.
Do throw some light on damages, how much it turned out to be on road.
Happy driving.
Thanks !! Yes, am glad I went for diesel given the petrol prices and better FE... Worth the extra 1.1L I think.... For the XL Diesel, I paid 9.16L on road in Chennai.... Also fitted a Nissan rear parking sensor which costed me ~5k. Top end XV costs ~1L more than the XL

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A Big congratulations on the car! Sunny is one of my favorites in this segment, love the looks and its features. Waiting for the pictures of the interiors, as I haven't yet seen the XL's dashboard - with the Vanilla meters.
Thanks Abhinav... Did click some pics last weekend but have not been able to transfer them to laptop.. And have been traveling most part of this week.. Will upload for sure over this weekend...

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Congrats on buying the most most comfortable car in the market!

I recently TD'ed it and found it to be very nimble and effort free to drive. The back seat is simply humongous and class leading, heck it will give D segments cars a run for their money.

Only sore in my opinion are Gearbox(but who knows maybe it will get better as you rack up more miles like XUV's) and Interior color choice,if Nissan can take inspiration from Hyundai and work on the interiors colors Sunny has the potential to become the best selling car in the segment.
Thanks Vagu.... Glad to see that you share very similar sentiments as I do on this car... Gearbox, though not as bad as made out to be, I hope will improve as I clock more miles... I personally like the sober colored interiors but many find it too simple too... Maybe Nissan can look at two toned beige - black or pure black interiors instead of the greige as an option !

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aroonanand

Congratulations! The caaaar is really a good caaar from all perspectives. I have taken multiple TDs of the Sunny and everytime I felt that the car is totally worth the mullah.

There are few amazing stories of Nissan A.S.S. on TBHP, which are really encouraging for those who are thinking of purchasing a Nissan vehicle. Also, those who would use the car 70-80% inside the city, really should not bother much about A.S.S. IMO. Anyways, Nissan has a much better reputation/brand image internationally which is still unknown to the layman here.

BTW, aroonanand, you need to upload some interior pics too. The thread won't be complete otherwise.

Keep the thread alive please. This is probably the first and only one ownership thread on Sunny on TBHP as yet. Prospective buyers will look forward to the updates from you.

Wishing you many happy miles with the caaar!
Thanks a bunch Ajay.... Glad to see that people are happy with Nissan A.S.S and that is certainly encouraging.. Car is coming up for 1st service in 10 days and that will throw some light on what to expect ahead.... Totally agree on the brand image worldwide, and this was definitely one factor that made me decide on the Nissan though Sunny is an unknown product in India.... Will post interior pics over the weekend.. apologies for the delay !


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Congraaatulations on the purchase of the most sensible diesel car in the C Segment.

Nissan Sunny is bigger than many C + Segment cars and i would have bought it if i were to be chauffeured around.

Wishing you many many kilometers of safe and peaceful ownership experience.
Thanks !!!

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Congratulations Aroon. Wish you many happy miles with the CAAAAAAR

Your report, besides being extremely precise, gives me the opportunity to request your opinion on my specific Diesel dillemma: should I be content with Fiesta Classic base variant or save for a another couple of months to go for the Sunny XL? I have a 93k run Santro giving me 18 kmpl, and am planning to upgrade to a sedan. My wife needs a car for short city drives and dad is going to retire this year - losing the company car.

The equation currently works out to:

Sunny Diesel XL = Fiesta Classic Diesel LXi + Nano LX (if I trade in my sparingly used scooter) + LPG on Santro. While I stretch, I might as well put in some more Vit. M.

Is the Sunny good enough to let go of the extra car? Is the Fiesta good enough to last another 8-9 years (from Ford support and spares cost POV)?
Thanks Lakhanpal ! Well, I toyed with the idea of Fiesta CLXI for a long while too and here's what made me go for Sunny over Fiesta
  • First of all, a newer product and hence more exciting !!! Fiesta Classic, while being a perfect drivers car and is a wonderful product, has been in the market for a while and so will not be a head turner.
  • Sunny XL, while costing ~75k more than Fiesta CLXI, offered a lot more, such as dual airbags, ABS, EBD, Climate control, rear AC vents etc... So found it to be more value for money... If i recollect, Sunny XL is cheaper than the top end Fiesta (ZXi) and still offers more features
  • This is purely a personal bias, but seeing the number of Fiesta Classic joining the fleet taxi operators fleet (Easycabs for instance), I swayed towards the Sunny
  • Lot more rear seat room in Sunny over Fiesta
And finally, if you see the base version of Fiesta, it is extremely bare and you will have to spend ~30-50k on this to get basic stuff like a good music system, body color handles / mirrors etc...

Also, as you mentioned the Fiesta Classic + Nano option, it depends on whether you need 1 car or 2.. and If it is going to be 2 and your budget is fixed, then the Fiesta option may be worthwhile....

And I have not heard of many issues with the Fiesta classic, so dont think that will be an area of concern given that you want to keep the car for a while.
Hope the above will help you decide on the car...

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Aroon, congratulations on owning the caaaaaaaaaaaar ! you beat me to the first position on team bhp. I'll join you shortly
Ha haa.... Look forward to your experience and opinion on the caaar !!!
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Thanks a lot, that does help.

The gap between the base Fiesta (Solid) and Sunny XL is close to 1.5L OTR, in Ahmedabad - as per respective rate lists.

Time to go through the accounts and squeeze some cash out
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Had a chance to visit the Nissan showroom yesterday. Though enough has been already said about the space, I was in for a surprise when I experienced it personally. The back seat legroom is phenomenal. For a simple analogy, if hatchbacks can be compared to cramped 2 BHK apartments, sedans for a 3 BHK apartments, the Sunny can be easily compared to a duplex independent house. So much of space and airiness all around.

I did not quite like the griege interiors though. Looks so dull. Did not have that premiumness when compared to the Vento Highline interior which I saw few days back. Ofcourse the price also plays a part.

Took a TD for a few kms. Like mentioned in the official review, on start, there was rocking motion (front to back) for a couple of secs. Like if some one is pushing the car from the front and back. But settled down and hardly felt any vibration after that. The high seating position, gave an excellent view of the road ahead. There was absolutely no turbo lag and the car was very responsive. The power delivery also felt very linear. No sudden surge/surprise. Felt the AC was not very adequate though and the auto AC seemed to make too much of noise, may be because of the blower speed. The breaks seemed to lack the bite. Like the reviews say, there isnt any feedback. One has to depress slightly harder and then it seemed to start breaking.

None of these are deal breakers though. I am sure my family will Thank me, if I opt for the CAAAAAR. Currently a very strong contender. Have to TD the Vento, Rapid, Optra before I conclude and place my money on the Car.

@aroonanand, does the XL come with remote lock/unlocking?. Does it have the same key fob like the XV variant albeit without the sensors?.

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Congrats on the Sunny, when i was looking for a Diesel sedan Sept 2011, the Sunny was being launched and I was very much inclined towards a Nissan as its known to produce fun cars but then the initial launch was only Petrol and with my high running it was ruled out
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Had a chance to visit the Nissan showroom yesterday. Though enough has been already said about the space, I was in for a surprise when I experienced it personally.
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@aroonanand, does the XL come with remote lock/unlocking?. Does it have the same key fob like the XV variant albeit without the sensors?.
Hey, nice to know that u liked the car. Agree with most of your observations, especially those on the brake. Surprised about the noise on the AC - mine hardly makes noise even when I cool the cabin to 20-21 degrees from ~32 which is the external temperature.. But yeah, the rear fan blower makes some noise at blower "2" position - at position 1 it is just fine.

On your other options, isnt the Optra too old a model to consider, just my opinion though.. Vento and Rapid are real peers for the Sunny

The XL does come with a remote lock / unlock for the primary key.... No, it does not have the same key fob like the XV - its a normal key with the lock / unlock button as well as one to open the boot !
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True. Optra is an old model but there seems to be a lot of passionate optra owners on the forum that it deserves to be checked out. I for one, do not really care about re-sale value. However I do worry about spares being available at a later stage and that might be the only thing that might stop me from going for the optra.

For me, space is one of the biggest criteria and from what I am reading, leaving the MUVs aside, its the Sunny, Etios and Optra that scores the most. Etios from what I have been reading looks like the interiors are bare-bones. Optra interiors though dated seems to be rich/pleasing.

I will take a TD and see if the car (optra) can convince me like it has done many others on the forum. Who knows what might happen.

The AC/blower noise on the Sunny when I took the TD might have been because, it was a very hot afternoon (yes its already too hot in Hyderabad) and the TD car was parked under the sun. So the ACC must have tried too hard blowing its fullest to try and bring it to the set 18 degrees. However within the 10 minutes I TDed, it could not bring the cabin anywhere within what I would call a pleasing temperature leave alone chilling to the bones. That said, under my normal driving/parking conditions, the AC should be sufficient enough.
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Thanks a lot, that does help.

The gap between the base Fiesta (Solid) and Sunny XL is close to 1.5L OTR, in Ahmedabad - as per respective rate lists.

Time to go through the accounts and squeeze some cash out
Good luck, do keep me posted on your decision... But to repeat, you should ideally compare the top end Fiesta with Sunny XL for a more like-to-like comparison based on the features these 2 variants offer.
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Aroonanand...

Just wanted to ask... does the default music system in the car has USB port/ Sd Card Slots?

I forgot to ask at the dealership :P
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Aroonanand...

Just wanted to ask... does the default music system in the car has USB port/ Sd Card Slots?

I forgot to ask at the dealership :P
Abhij,

No it does not have a USB or card slots but only aux port.
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Congrats on the Sunny, when i was looking for a Diesel sedan Sept 2011, the Sunny was being launched and I was very much inclined towards a Nissan as its known to produce fun cars but then the initial launch was only Petrol and with my high running it was ruled out
hey, you should now try the Diesel, will fit your requirements for high running with the super frugal engine and good Fuel Efficiency !

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Abhij,

No it does not have a USB or card slots but only aux port.
Correct, no USB or card slot. They really should have kept a USB slot in the system given that practically every music system has a USB slot ! Even entry level hatches offer this :(
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Hey all,

As promised, attaching some snaps of the interiors of the caaar as well as some newly clicked exterior snaps where the car sports 3M sun control films, which were fitted last weekend.

These will give you all a good idea of the humongous space inside... and in the boot which is a whopping 490 litres !!

So far the car has returned an average FE of 19.9 kmpl of diesel for the 650+ kms I have done, of this ~350 was on the highway with the rest in Bangalore traffic. No complaints on this front so far !!!

Look forward to your comments !
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