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Old 26th February 2012, 11:05   #16
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Great, crisp and unbiased review. Welcome to the Toyota family. Enjoy years of hassle free driving.
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The Etios is doing now what the Swift did in 2005 ; a slow and steady climb up the sales chart.

Once people have begun realising the Etios' virtues , there are no second thoughts.

Soft Seats,some cheap interior plastic and some road noise and non availability of spares in the marketplace are the only negatives.
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Great, crisp and unbiased review. Welcome to the Toyota family. Enjoy years of hassle free driving.
Thanks. I'm very glad to be a member of it .
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The Etios is doing now what the Swift did in 2005 ; a slow and steady climb up the sales chart.

Once people have begun realising the Etios' virtues , there are no second thoughts.

Soft Seats,some cheap interior plastic and some road noise and non availability of spares in the marketplace are the only negatives.
Non availability of spares for a car that sells in volumes?! Toyota needs to address it immediately since the Liva also shares many components with the Etios.

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I test drove the Etios, the engine was good, but did not find the car much fund to drive. i disliked the quality of interiors also found the doors to be very light .i told the showroom guy what's with the interiors and quality of plastic used. He said its a economical car so the interiors are kept keeping the pricing and segment in mind. Anyways i didn't go for the same. Hopefully Toyota would improve this car in the future once they come up with a revised model.

As for me, i am on my way to get a pre owner corolla to enjoy the Toyota brand and quality.
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It is nice to know that you find your ETIOS good value for money.

Did you evaluate the discounted Honda City when making a buying decision?

Thanks for a very well written and a balanced review of the car!
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I test drove the Etios, the engine was good, but did not find the car much fund to drive. i disliked the quality of interiors also found the doors to be very light .i told the showroom guy what's with the interiors and quality of plastic used. He said its a economical car so the interiors are kept keeping the pricing and segment in mind.
I think you drove the diesel . Though the other points you mentioned are somewhat true, I fail to understand the one about the fun to drive aspect! It really is fun to drive the Etios. Of course you cant compare it with the Corolla. And as I indicated in my post, it wont accelerate like a diesel simply because it's a petrol. I'm not trying to correct you but if you're skipping the Etios because of the lack of fun to drive, I think you should TD it once again.

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It is nice to know that you find your ETIOS good value for money.

Did you evaluate the discounted Honda City when making a buying decision?

Thanks for a very well written and a balanced review of the car!
Ya it's great value for money. At an ex-showroom price of around 6.4 lakhs, you get almost everything. Yes,the feature rich Dzire ZXi is there, but I like the Etios more for its engine, larger boot, cabin space and looks (my perception).

Had that Honda offer been there(or I had came to know about it) even a week before I took the delivery of the Etios, I would have gone for it because in almost all aspects, it's a much better car. I don't miss much in the Etios though, except the stunning looks and better interiors of the City.
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Very crisp and the point review. Etios does score high marks on practicality and in black it looks nice as well. However, maintenance might be difficult.
Wishing you lots of happy miles with the T.
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However, maintenance might be difficult.
Why you say so?
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On the Interior plastics quality, had a chance to travel in a Toyota Prius Taxi a couple of weeks ago in SFO. I was surprised to see similar plastics used all over for the Taxi version.

Looks like Toyota is using taxi-quality plastics for Indian Etios !!
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That has been the case with most of the Toyota cars I guess. Even the Innova and Fortuner have no great interiors to boast about. And people often complain about that too. Toyota don't pay attention to these things?!

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On the Interior plastics quality, had a chance to travel in a Toyota Prius Taxi a couple of weeks ago in SFO. I was surprised to see similar plastics used all over for the Taxi version.

Looks like Toyota is using taxi-quality plastics for Indian Etios !!
that's a real shocker! I didn't expect that. Though a taxi version, a Prius is a Prius na? The plastic quality shouldn't be as bad as it is in the Etios .

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Congrats for your new vehicle. Wish you thousands of happy and safe miles with it.

I have always viewed Toyota engines as one of the best amongst all the engines, also the *** of Toyota is top notch. So you would get least headache during the regular services and repairs.
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Congrats Fast&Furious for your new purchase. As rightly pointed out by Ankur, you need not worry about quality and service.
Black will always be terrific if well maintained. Since the back resembles Logan, many do not appreciate the design.
Better get the idle speed checked with and without AC.
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Better get the idle speed checked with and without AC.
I did say that there's a difference in the idle speed with AC off at times(not always). When the rpm is around that 500-600 mark and I turn the AC ON, the engine automatically raises the rpm to generate the extra power. But I find it extremely difficult to get the car moving from 0 on inclined roads with AC OFF. Even on level roads it's difficult. With the AC ON, you just release the clutch and it starts moving. But with the AC off, even after giving a good amount of throttle, it's difficult to prevent the engine from stalling.
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I did say that there's a difference in the idle speed with AC off at times(not always). When the rpm is around that 500-600 mark and I turn the AC ON, the engine automatically raises the rpm to generate the extra power. But I find it extremely difficult to get the car moving from 0 on inclined roads with AC OFF. Even on level roads it's difficult. With the AC ON, you just release the clutch and it starts moving. But with the AC off, even after giving a good amount of throttle, it's difficult to prevent the engine from stalling.
Yes. I doubt the idling speed. Normally the idle rpm should be around 800-900.
Just check the idling speed after the engine heats up (after it reaches the normal running temp). With this low rpm you may end up in backing too much on a slope or rev up more.
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Attached is an image of the tacho reading while idling with AC OFF. The reading is close to 600 I guess. This happens randomly (sometimes it does idle at 1000 with AC OFF). With AC ON, it's somewhere near 1000. I have to give a fair amount of throttle to raise the rpm and even then the engine sometimes stalls or comes very close to stalling. A friend of mine who drove the car also pointed out this issue. Strange.
Idle rpm of 600 is pretty low. Ideally it should be close to 800~850. Try visiting the service centre and ask them to show the idle rpm on some other vehicles. Do check the idle rpm after letting the engines warm up for a while.

A faulty oxygen sensor can cause inconsistent idling rpm and cause stalling at start off. Ask them to replace it and then see if it the problem persists.
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