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Old 22nd February 2014, 01:06   #661
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Your car is grey in colour too? Same pinch!

The dealer quoted the two tone (beige & chocolate brown) artificial leather seat cover (a Mobis one) for ~ Rs. 6.5k. Although it looked good, I declined it as I wasn't sure whether it would absorb heat. I generally prefer fabric seat covers as they are breathable, even if they have a tendency to get soiled easily. I want to look around for a good quality fabric cover. If it's not available, then I may have to go with faux leather.

3M have some very light film that reduces the interior heat. Since the i20's A/C is not a bone-chilling unit, I may need this to stay cool in the torrid summer of Chennai. I think I'll wait until peak summer to see if the cooling is adequate. If not, then 3M can make it a bit better.

jdr and connect2prashan,

Both your seat covers fit well and look good! The colour combo matches the interior shades and the predominant beige colour makes the interiors appear airy.

Do you guys have a boot mat? The dealer provided mudflaps and mats. The mats are carpet type ones (not rubber) and they do not come with a boot mat. They did not have a boot mat as a separate accessory either. I'll have to look around for a rubber boot mat too.

My parents car is in the Sleek Silver shade.
Thats why I want to consider Mid Grey seat covers.
Faux leather will be good.
We will be doing the lightest 3M film because my mum cant handle the burning sun and torrid Madras summer at all.
Ref boot mat. I have placed a nice PU/ rubber yoga mat on the boot floor and it works perfectly indeed.
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jdr, the stickiness is the issue I want to avoid with the artificial leather. Since I tend to sweat a lot in the humid summer, I prefer the breathable nature of fabric covers. On the flip side, fabric covers get soiled rather easily.

A rubber boot mat is very useful if one is going to carry heavy or dusty or dirty loads in the boot quite often. One can just take it out of the boot, wash it, drain off the water and put it back in. This cannot be done with the carpeted board that covers the spare wheel bay.

shankar.balan, quality film that rejects heat (like 3M/Garware) can indeed make the interior a much more comfortable place. I think I too will have no option but to go for this eventually.

Yoga mat is a good idea! If I don't find a rubber boot mat, I'll go for this.

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This is going to sound a bit random, but I have a concern about this fantastic car:
Weight Reduction
The i20 weighs 1250 kgs, which makes it really obese, and you can feel it, especially under hard-braking (I've nothing against the brakes, they're pretty good, but still). I'm thinking, if it were possible to knock off, say, around a 100 kgs, it would be awesome (The car would be lighter, faster, would give better mileage, stop better, although it might lose some of its stability (can add front and rear spoilers, diffuser etc. for that though (I know it only works at really high speeds (100 mph+))). The only way I know of to reduce the car's weight however, is to have it go on a carbon fiber diet (bonnet, roof, rear hatch etc.), which, I'm guessing, would be totally unaffordable. Has anyone tried anything crazy like this with their i20?

Under-Body Protection
At the same time, there is no under-body protection (esp. under the engine) which is a bit worrisome. If I could lighten some of the existing weight and add a under-body cover (aluminium should suffice?), that would be good too. Is it even possible to add the under-body cover? (bolt-on obviously, the mechanic has to be able to take it off for maintenance)

Warranty Issues
I'll obviously "consider" all that after warranty expires... (maybe the under-body cover won't void warranty?) but it would be good to know what options exist for weight-reduction.

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3M have some very light film that reduces the interior heat. Since the i20's A/C is not a bone-chilling unit, I may need this to stay cool in the torrid summer of Chennai. I think I'll wait until peak summer to see if the cooling is adequate. If not, then 3M can make it a bit better.
I did the lightest film from 3M with maximum UV rejection. It costed me 21k all around. (includes the 7k windshield film) I experience lesser heat and/or a more efficient cooling after this. Especially after the windshield done. The other advantage is, It also reduced glare from headlights of vehicles opposite to me. However, I don't find it effective for Chennai Summer. This is probably because of the poor AC of Hyundai. My dad's Fiesta(classic) AC cools the cabin much sooner and keeps it that way even in Chennai summer.

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Do you guys have a boot mat? The dealer provided mudflaps and mats. The mats are carpet type ones (not rubber) and they do not come with a boot mat. They did not have a boot mat as a separate accessory either. I'll have to look around for a rubber boot mat too.
I do have an i20 rubber boot mat that I got(free) along with the floor mats that came with the car at the time of delivery.

1st-gen Hyundai i20 (2008 - 2014) : Review-image.jpeg

As an alternative, you can try this 3M coir mat (or what ever they call it)for your boot too. This is very effective. Holds the dust/dirt in place.

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jdr, the stickiness is the issue I want to avoid with the artificial leather. Since I tend to sweat a lot in the humid summer, I prefer the breathable nature of fabric covers. On the flip side, fabric covers get soiled rather easily.
I really wonder how you can avoid stickiness in Chennai summer. I have never been in Chennai (April-June/July). So I don't have an idea to how much sticky/icky the seats can get.

I alwaaaaaays drive with windows up and AC on. This is just to keep the dust away from my cabin. Moreover, I am not using i20 in Chennai much (KA registered). So the stickiness is not in my mind as of now.

And here is a pic of my car's seat covers. The earlier one was from my brother's car.

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sabsubs, please let us know what your HASS thinks the problem is.

I plan to get a TD of another i20 from the dealer to see if the problem sound is inherent to all i20's or just my car. Then visit a better mechanic than found at HASS to see what s/he has to say.

-jdr
Visited HASS for the problem that I had reported some time back. However I did not hear any clatter sound after that first incident. I had called up my SA and told him that I will be visiting today. I went to Trident Hyundai service center near KR PURAM, my SA promptly assigned a technician. I along with the technician went for a road test but we could not hear that sound. We came back and the technician ran GSCAN on the car and was trying to upgrade the ECU software but it was already upgraded. No error codes were found. The technician suggested me drive the car for few more kilometers and observe the sound. Let me drive my car of few more kilometer probably another 1000 kms and check whether the sound repeats.
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Visited HASS for the problem that I had reported some time back. However I did not hear any clatter sound after that first incident. I had called up my SA and told him that I will be visiting today. I went to Trident Hyundai service center near KR PURAM, my SA promptly assigned a technician. I along with the technician went for a road test but we could not hear that sound. We came back and the technician ran GSCAN on the car and was trying to upgrade the ECU software but it was already upgraded. No error codes were found. The technician suggested me drive the car for few more kilometers and observe the sound. Let me drive my car of few more kilometer probably another 1000 kms and check whether the sound repeats.
I need to clarify some things here. Maybe I shouldn't call the engine-sound 'clatter' -- the one that you used to get from older diesel engines. It's more of an infrequent 'rattle'. I'd describe it as a 'crankling' noise, but there's no such word. It comes on at any RPM, but usually around 1500-1750 RPM. Is not heard under hard acceleration; only when you speed up gently or cruise after the noise starts. It, um... sounds like a gentle 'crankle' but feels like there's a nut lose in the cylinder and hitting the walls -- but that would be dramatic of me.
I've been to Goa and back this weekend, so that was nearly a 1000kms of driving, and my car is now up to 3600kms on the odo, and the noise that was noticeable almost from the start (of buying) still persists. Last weekend I was unable to get a TD. I will need to show the car to a technician this time instead of the SE (who knows virtually nothing that matters, I think).
I will also show it to some independent mechanics who know their stuff and get their inputs.


P.S. off topic, but a bird with diarrhoea took a gigantic dump on the bonnet of my car enroute to Goa. Unfortunately, by the time I got to cleaning it, the engine had baked the shit real well. When I wiped it off, the paint underneath that humongous dose of crap seems to have been eaten into. Is bird poop acidic/basic in nature, so much so that it would spoil the paint?
I will try some cleaner and polish (the one that was used to clean the glue after de-badging the rear hatch of all but the 'i20' and 'H' logo) on it, hoping it will clean it up properly.
So if you find birds hovering around your car, shoot them down, because they're taking aim to fire a bomb... what foul play is this?!

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It's been week since my brother brought the Silver i20 Petrol Magna home, with my Santro Xing XG as the pilot car. Yet to name the toy, & get to drive the car over long distance, as I want my brother to open up the engine his way only.

Still have few observations to make:

- Features galore... you name a feature & it is there, barring ABS-Airbags, star-stop button, smart keys, steering mounted controls, bluetooth connectivity, rear wiper, rear spoiler, auto-dimming IVRM, foglamps with DRL, alloy wheels & 60-40 split rear seats. Just realized the exhaustive list of features on Hyundai cars, which ensures that the lower models get more than sufficient features/ luxuries.
- This one is huge from outside & inside... maybe Jazz is bigger than this (mind you my family also has a Micra).
- Steering is too light... guess need to get wider tyres on the car. My brother is happy otherwise with the setup.
- Chassis seems well sorted, but, not for some hardcore action, rather than carrying the occupants in comfort.
- Engine is refined & super silent. I had hard time (due to problem with my right ear-drum), despite the fact that bonnet hasn't got any damping material.

More to come with pics, of course as we went for a family function in Karol Bagh & did not get to accessorize the car & photo shoot.

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Guys...my 2011 i20 Sportz (pre facelift) suffered a side wall cut to its left front wheel due to a carelessly lying rock bang in the fast lane. I was returning to Hyderabad from Kerala and this happened at the fag end of the journey just before Hyderabad. The cut is around 2 inches at the outer sidewall. My car comes with factory fitted alloys and the tyre size is 185/65 R14.

Now my question to you guys. Is there any way I can repair the cut sidewall or do I need to get a completely new tyre. I read somewhere that cuts upto 3 inches can be repaired using some sealant. I also plan to retain this repaired tyre as the spare and transfer my alloys to the erstwhile spare tyre which is now sticking out like a sore thumb due to its steel rims.

Also I have run 30k now and during my last alignment, the technician said that the tyres have worn out very less abd can last another 20k minimum. Can I wait for that long? What is the experience of other i20 owners with respect to tyre change?

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How does the automatic headlamps and the wipers work in the i20? Is there anything that needs to be fiddled around with? My brother bought a i20 (Asta, Petrol) and have been figuring out how the auto headlamps and the wipers work?
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I don't know whether my post in this thread is OK or not.

Query : Recenty, my friend while driving his i20, suddenly stopped midway and did not start for 2-3 minutes and after that he was able to restart and reach home.

Next day when he tried starting his i20 again, the engine refused to start at all.

He called up service centre and the service centre deputed one engineer to their place to find out the fault.

The so called service engineer after inspection told that one pin of ECU is broken due to rusting and gave an estimate of approx. 63,000/-.

Now my question is :

1. How the ECU pin can be damaged by user, when car stopped midway first day.

2. How the PINs of ECU got rusted ?

The Service Engineer told that it is not covered under warranty.

Guys, please advise ?

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How old is the car? the ECU can get damaged if water was used to wash the engine compartment.
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How old is the car? the ECU can get damaged if water was used to wash the engine compartment.
Car is approx. 2+ years old.

In this case whether he can claim Insurance ?

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The so called service engineer after inspection told that one pin of ECU is broken due to rusting and gave an estimate of approx. 63,000/-.
I dont know any connector pin that is built with IRON CONTENT so as to rust?! Usually all connectors are steel, this is pretty basic.

Lets assume during underbody washing some water got splashed upwards into engine bay, so what? Shouldnt end up in rusting in any case!

He should escalate it to Hyundai management & make a noise, & get it under warranty.
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I dont know any connector pin that is built with IRON CONTENT so as to rust?! Usually all connectors are steel, this is pretty basic.

Lets assume during underbody washing some water got splashed upwards into engine bay, so what? Shouldnt end up in rusting in any case!

He should escalate it to Hyundai management & make a noise, & get it under warranty.
Thanks Surya,

Do you have any email IDs at Hyundai senior level where he can send mail to escalate the issue.
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Thanks Surya,

Do you have any email IDs at Hyundai senior level where he can send mail to escalate the issue.
afraid not, maybe just making calls to the numbers on Hyundai website & getting the contacts will help.
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