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Old 29th May 2012, 12:05   #76
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I am sorry but which i20 1.2 model costs over 9 lakhs. The one that almost touches 9 lakh is the top of the line diesel which is not underpowered at all. I TD the newer i20 petrol and diesel yesterday and the 1.2 feels even slower than my pre-facelift 1.2.
I think GTO meant the diesel asta/auto as the variants that cost over 9 lakhs. When people go to buy a car they also have a look at all the variants (though they might not be interested in the top variant). As is the case with Hyundais, their diesels provide better performance than the petrols.
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How would you rate the CRDi when compared to new Swift/dzire's DDiS in terms of driveability,performance and refinement?
Taking the liberty to answer this (since I believe I understand this topic quite well) I think the CRDi is easily the best. But my opinion is limited to the engine only
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Awesome review GTO Loved the attention to detail you have given in every area. Rating the thread 5 *'s!

i20 is a really good car and awesome for city use. I have been using my FIL's i20 on regular basis. But I have found its highway manners to be pretty good too if you intend to cruise at 100. I really expected Hyundai to provide the real-time stats on fuel consumption with the facelift, and yes, its really needed (I believe in every car).

At what rpm of 6th gear does it touch 100 in the CRDi? Its about 3.5k on 5th gear in 1.2 petrol.
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Taking the liberty to answer this (since I believe I understand this topic quite well) I think the CRDi is easily the best. But my opinion is limited to the engine only
The DDiS engine basically is also CRDi. DDiS is the monicker Maruti uses to identify the diesel engine. CRDi is the fuel injection method.

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At what rpm of 6th gear does it touch 100 in the CRDi? Its about 3.5k on 5th gear in 1.2 petrol.
Are you sure about that? 3.5K at 100 kph sounds a tad too high.
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I am sorry but which i20 1.2 model costs over 9 lakhs.
The i20 1.2 Sunroof costs nearly 8 big ones in Mumbai and 8.5ish in Bangalore.

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But I have found its highway manners to be pretty good too if you intend to cruise at 100.
Even a Thar or WagonR can cruise comfortably at 100 kph . If you are paying premium money for a hatch, wouldn't you expect premium road behaviour as well?

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At what rpm of 6th gear does it touch 100 in the CRDi?
From my review:

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At 100 kph, the engine is spinning over at just under 2,000 rpms, while 120 kph sees the rpm needle at ~2,300 rpm.
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Taking the liberty to answer this (since I believe I understand this topic quite well) I think the CRDi is easily the best. But my opinion is limited to the engine only
If you can elaborate how it is the best...

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Even a Thar or WagonR can cruise comfortably at 100 kph . If you are paying premium money for a hatch, wouldn't you expect premium road behaviour as well?
The vertical movement on uneven roads settles the car and one has to correct the speed more often. Cars like Punto glides at 100 kmph on slightly uneven roads. That is what I would call cruising comfortably at that speed.

Hyundai needs to caliberate the suspension of crdi version in particular to the stiffer side. That will make it even a more effortless highway cruiser.
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Test drove the new i20 CRDI today as part of our car hunt. The Engine is a gem but the pathetic AC is still there, there was sitting under sunlight for a while but even after the end of a half an hour drive, it was not making me comfortable.

Its between the Polo and Punto for us now.
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Thanks for a very clear and crisp review.i dont think it can get anymore detailed than this.i really dont find any reason to buy those expensive 'Ad magazines' ,with a bit of auto stuff inbetween, anymore .kudos to the photographer.btw I myself am in the market for a diesel hatchback.
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its quite amazing how a minor 'headlight+bumper' job could make such a big difference to the looks of a car.in fact i believe the new i20 looks more 'all new' than the all new swift.the interiors could have done with a bit more fluidity to it.
The promotion was very sedate compared to the 'dud' new Sonata.Still cant figure out what made Hyundai spend so much on the 300-350 units a month D segment launch and basically nothing on a 30K units a month B++ segment.
the fluidic design theme has certainly taken the auto world by storm- in a very short span. the Koreans and Japanese-known for their explicit engineering skills have learnt a new art!!
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TOI carries Zigwheels road test report of the i20 today in which they say (and I quote)

"Coming to the fuel efficiency, the i-Gen i20 is way behind it predecessor. While the older car managed 12.47kmpl around town, the new one just managed 9.5km to the litre. Even on the highway, the new car managed a best of just 13.5kmpl compared to the earlier carís 18.06kmpl. The lack of torque lower down means one inevitably ends up giving more throttle thereby affecting the mileage."


Doubtless they refer to the petrol (manual) version - which is not very clear in the report - but a 25% dip in FE seems huge! With petrol prices being what they are - this would be disastrous if true.

New Hyundai i-Gen i20 : Road Test Page - 2| Zigwheels.com
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ē The fuel tank's capacity is 45 liters. Diesel i20 will deliver a phenomenal tank range.
Forgot to ask one thing. The current i20 takes in almost 8 to 9 liters of petrol after the auto cut-off. Does the facelift also face the same problem? In comparison, my Esteem just takes in < 1 liter after auto cut-off.
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Just got back from a long TD in i20 Crdi. The car was good to drive. Basically we are considering this car for mom dad. So after a lot of considerations we narrowed down to i20 due to its comfortable size and steering wheel.

We took a TD around the city traffic and had no issues with it. Even tried a few U turns. Dad was really happy with its drive ability & its goodies. TD car was ASTA Crdi. Currently he is driving a Cedia and thanks to Petrol prices decided to move to a diesel Hatch which Mom can also drive with ease.

The ASTA variant is 8.53L on road and Sportz is 8.02L on road. So for a difference of 50K we are considering going for the ASTA. The SP said that White ASTA & Bronze Sportz readily available. So once we find a buyer for the Cedia we shall proceed with the booking of i20 Asta CRDi.

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Press the clutch pedal and tap the engine start button to fire the i20 up. Hit this button *without* pressing the clutch to access the stereo on and ignition on modes. Ignition on mode means the lights, blower, power windows etc. work without the engine cranking up:
Is this the water droplets getting condensed around the AC vents? I have heard about this problem on Hyundai cars.
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The DDiS engine basically is also CRDi. DDiS is the monicker Maruti uses to identify the diesel engine. CRDi is the fuel injection method.
I meant Hyundai's CRDi. What you probably don't know (as I can gather from your statement) is that Hyundai has trademarked the 'CRDi' name so as a result everyone's using a DiCOR, CR4 (Tata), DDiS (Maruti), Multijet (Fiat), TDI (VW), TDCI (Ford) and TCDI(Chevrolet).
Tata also has Quadrajet (it's version of multijet) and CR4 (earlier DiCOR) monikers, just to complete the list.
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If you can elaborate how it is the best...
As an Engine, the 1.4 CRDi is better than the Multijet. Just drive both back-to-back, the difference in refinement and power delivery is evident.So
is the fuel efficiency for the power produced. Of course,the Hyundai unit is bigger, but they are in the same segment which is why they are being compared in the first place.
The rest of the car (i20) is a letdown in the driving and dynamics department.
So there's no fun in all that power unless you are on a straight expressway.
I think it is an agreed fact that the Punto is far better and actually the segment benchmark, followed closely by the Figo and the Polo/Fabia.
That's what I meant by the statement 'I am referring to the engine only'.

Mods- I was requoting two posts when I realized I had put back-to-back posts. My apologies. Could you please combine these posts?

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Is this the water droplets getting condensed around the AC vents? I have heard about this problem on Hyundai cars.
Excellent attention to detail. I missed the condensation of water on the vent while reading the Test report.

I think it is a common phenomenon. In places with high humidity, condensation on the vent happens because the outside surface of the vent is below the dew point of the air in their immediate surroundings.

During the test drive, the Aircon temperature could have been set to the lowest for a long period of time resulting in cooling the outer plastic of the duct, resulting in condensation of air.
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