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Old 19th November 2012, 22:19   #211
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how can you do wheelspin in a civic auto which has a poor low end ?
Unless you hold onto the brake rev it till 3k and just dumb the brakes, and damaging the tranny.
Ah jatinpatel, that my friend is the orgasmic story behind an i-VTEC with PADDLE SHIFTERS.

Sir Frankmehta if you may guide others - how an AT becomes an MT in the Civic. I think there is a triptronic manual mode / Sports mode button if I'm not wrong.
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Sir Frankmehta if you may guide others - how an AT becomes an MT in the Civic. I think there is a triptronic manual mode / Sports mode button if I'm not wrong.
There's an entire thread (old one) on the civic paddle shifters, essential reading for anyone interested in civics or stuck in a civic vs corolla decision. I can't seem to figure out how to link to the thread on the tbhp android app tho, a quick search will unearth it.
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Ah jatinpatel, that my friend is the orgasmic story behind an i-VTEC with PADDLE SHIFTERS.

Sir Frankmehta if you may guide others - how an AT becomes an MT in the Civic. I think there is a triptronic manual mode / Sports mode button if I'm not wrong.


I have a Civic AT myself!
and it can happen in 1st gear but very very very rarely in 2nd.
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There's an entire thread (old one) on the civic paddle shifters, essential reading for anyone interested in civics or stuck in a civic vs corolla decision. I can't seem to figure out how to link to the thread on the tbhp android app tho, a quick search will unearth it.
Are these the ones?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...dle-shift.html (about civic paddle shift)
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...will-work.html (Paddle shifts on Indian cars - will it work?)
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I have a Civic AT myself!
and it can happen in 1st gear but very very very rarely in 2nd.
Pedal to Metal red line in S mode 1st gear, and up-shift! Yes, true it happens rarely only, maybe on lower than normal grip conditions, eg newly laid roads, or dusty, or wet road.

Thanks. All I was wondering was the CNG response at higher rpms, which can only be forced through paddle-shifts or S mode. I got a satisfactory answer to that.

i-VTEC after all is a gem of a motor. Lots of articles on friction saving technologies implemented by Honda on it. If inferior motors, some 3-pot, can handle CNG fuel well, why not the i-VTEC.
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Going in for a suspension check up guys. The rear shocks seem to have become slightly stiff, maybe. On bumps at full load, I hear a characteristic thudding sound (of the shocks and springs reaching their limits) which means I need to wheel her into a garage and have her thoroughly checked.
Any pointers for a good suspension specialist in Mumbai??
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Going in for a suspension check up guys. The rear shocks seem to have become slightly stiff, maybe. On bumps at full load, I hear a characteristic thudding sound (of the shocks and springs reaching their limits) which means I need to wheel her into a garage and have her thoroughly checked.
Any pointers for a good suspension specialist in Mumbai??
This is very common to all the Civics...what you need is this..nothing else will help in the long run.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ension-24.html (Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspension?)
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Going in for a suspension check up guys. The rear shocks seem to have become slightly stiff, maybe. On bumps at full load, I hear a characteristic thudding sound (of the shocks and springs reaching their limits) which means I need to wheel her into a garage and have her thoroughly checked.
Any pointers for a good suspension specialist in Mumbai??
I'e heard good things about Mr. Shanbagh's garage in Dadar even from non-tbhp friends and I think he might be located closer to you.

Its a known feature of the civic suspension that it hits the rear bump stops under full load on bumpy roads (which ones in Mumbai aren't?). Its happened with my car as well and only under full load at high speed, its been well behaved when at normal city speeds (<60 kmph). My cars rear suspension's been checked out as ok by Honda so nothing to worry about.

I'm seriously thinking of checking out the Coil Spring Adjusters though, at Automech, just can't find the time for it

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Are these the ones?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...dle-shift.html (about civic paddle shift)
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...will-work.html (Paddle shifts on Indian cars - will it work?)
Yes, the first thread. It starts out innocuously enough but a few of the later posts describe the Civic paddle shifters in detail. I believe the city paddle shifters work slightly differently.

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Thanks. All I was wondering was the CNG response at higher rpms, which can only be forced through paddle-shifts or S mode. I got a satisfactory answer to that.
Not necessarily. The Civic ECU manages gear changes as per throttle inputs (unlike in a corolla AT), so i've been able to rev her till 6k rpm even in D mode with aggressive throttle inputs. Overall I find the response ~20% less in CNG mode than on petrol - need to get the kit checked out and serviced fully.

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I understand this suspension bottoming out issue is a common one. I shall still go to get it checked at some local suspension specialist and ascertain if there is any wear and tear. Also, have contacted Darryl for the coil spring adjustment rubber, but he seems to be in the UK hence will get in touch with him via email.
As for the car, she's doing great. Due to the holiday season, haven't had many work related jaunts so she's been driven expressly in the city and in heavy traffic she costs anything between 3 and 4 rupees a km (with AC and with NO highway driving) Still a healthy figure, owing to the crazy traffic in Mumbai sometimes and the abysmal (moon surface rivaling) road surface.
There IS a problem, though, and that's the rattling which just makes me gnash my teeth in anger when there is no music playing in the car. I guess one has to make some compromises when it comes to buying a used car, and mine is the excessive no. of squeaks and rattles.
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The Coil spring adjusters are also available with Automech at Lower Parel.
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How much do they cost? More than Auto Runner?
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How much do they cost? More than Auto Runner?
I think they keep the same brand.You can call or visit them and find out the price which should be same as per other seller.

Edit: 4500 for all fours was the price in April 2011.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post2301225 (Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspension?)

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Might drive down to Automech and just get them installed in this week. ONLY the rears.
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I would strongly advice you against the coil spring adjusters, for sanity of the rear suspension geometry to be maintained and the car to handle the same way as it should.

Get the REAR shocks checked.
Coil spring adjuster would be putting cutting the bump stop rate but at the same time putting undue stresses on the spring whenever the spring compresses completely since the adjuster is an add on thing and its not taken into account in the spring design.

The Proper Way would be getting
1-Rear suspension check if required change the shocks.
2-Get better suspension which will make difference in the way the car rides as well as handles.


DO NOT got for the coil spring adjusters or the Autorunners.



Its an advice...
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Taken an appointment at Oberai Suspension for tomorrow afternoon. Will drop by and take an idea from him, and then post here.
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