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Old 15th May 2013, 22:03   #361
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Do you know of any trustworthy CNG kit installers in Pune for my AT.
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Is this engine mount changing thing a CIVIC alone phenomenon ? I am asking because I haven't changed engine mounts for any of my cars. The present one is almost 15 years.
It is most definitely a Honda problem. My friend's Accord mounts gave up too. Never thought of engine foundations as consumables till I bought the Civic.

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You are my inspiration.
Do you know of any trustworthy CNG kit installers in Pune for my AT.
You can always install in Mumbai and drive back, enjoying the car. Also, every 5k km or when you come down to Mumbai, you can always have the car examined or serviced by the installer.
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How often does one need to replace spark plugs in a CNG-run engine?
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I always stuck to a spark plug change interval of 15K when I was on CNG with my Lancer. You would also need the gap to be reduced a bit. Your installer is probably the best person to do this.
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Ok thanks. It's been about 14k since we got her. Maybe a thousand km more.
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Hi Frank - has CNG forced making frequent refuel trips? i.e. refill every week?

Petrol full refill would accept ~45 litres and at 10 average give you 450 kms

But 14 kg batla can only take 9kg cng and at 14 average will give 126kms i.e. only 1/4th of petrol distance. So you go to fill more often?

Note: Cost not discussed here.
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Hi Frank - has CNG forced making frequent refuel trips? i.e. refill every week?

Petrol full refill would accept ~45 litres and at 10 average give you 450 kms

But 14 kg batla can only take 9kg cng and at 14 average will give 126kms i.e. only 1/4th of petrol distance. So you go to fill more often?

Note: Cost not discussed here.
If you are driving 140 kms every week then why go for CNG? My car needs every alternate day refilling as my daily run is about 60-70 kms. The tank takes almost 10-10.5 kgs of gas which can be used for approx 140-160 kms per refill.This is what I'm getting on my civic in city driving.
With the saving in cost, I don't think you will mind spending 10 mins every alternate day to get your car refill. Practically the cost of running is almost 1/3rd of what it was on petrol. Hope this helps
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To save fueling-time i.e. every 2nd day queuing in line + filling - has anyone tried any ideas?

Possible to fit 2 batlas, both connected, so fueling required less often? Or using device NGV that allows more gas inside?

For most, cost savings will overcome time drain, I realize.
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To save fueling-time i.e. every 2nd day queuing in line + filling - has anyone tried any ideas?

Possible to fit 2 batlas, both connected, so fueling required less often? Or using device NGV that allows more gas inside?

For most, cost savings will overcome time drain, I realize.
What is NGV device? How can it allow more gas than the capacity of the tank? All the tanks are manufactured with full capacity to be filled with pressure of 250. Now at the pump the pressure is maintained mostly at 200 which means a 14kg capacity tank will be filled with 11.2 kgs at the max. I've 70 lt tank which translates into 14 kg of gas at 250 pressure. Once only when the gas was almost empty i could fill in 11kgs of gas. I don't think sedans have space for 2 tanks.
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Getting my front and rear shocks replaced. The car is undergoing a major suspension overhau. The front struts, bushes ans strut kits are being replaced. The rear shocks are being replaced and auto runners are being placed. The aluminum spacers are being removed as my last set of rear shocks lasted only 10 k km. Nonsense oberai Suspension installed spurious shocks and aluminum spacers which wore out the struts very quickly.
Car is presently at Wagenwerks workshop. Getting her tomorrow.

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Getting my front and rear shocks replaced. The car is undergoing a major suspension overhau. The front struts, bushes ans strut kits are being replaced. The rear shocks are being replaced and auto runners are being placed. The aluminum spacers are being removed as my last set of rear shocks lasted only 10 k km. Nonsense oberai Suspension installed spurious shocks and aluminum spacers which wore out the struts very quickly.
Car is presently at Jatinpatels workshop. Getting her tomorrow.
Don't you feel that car needed suspension overhaul a little too early ? Probably the aluminum spacer aggrevated the problem . What is the total cost coming to ?
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I think I have read that a suspension overhaul for a Civic is recommended at 50000 km. Also, the roads I drive on, daily are not very good. Which means that suspension wear and tear are quite high. Also, the damn aluminum spacers and the spurious shocks, coupled with the added weight of the CNG kit and a few back to back trips with the car fully loaded did the trick. The earlier shocks had Honda stickers on them, but they turned out to be non-OEM and duplicate.
This time, though, we are installing TRW shocks in the front and rear.

GUYS, I looked online for something called a 'STRUT KIT' but I really don't seem to find it. Even the Honda Service manual for the Civic doesn't have the part listed. Jatin from Wagenwerkz has asked to replace the 'strut kit' Can someone tell me what this part looks like??

The prices are listed below:
Front Shocks: Rs. 3850
Rear Shocks: (TBA)
Front Strut Kit: Rs. 4300
Front Suspension Bushing: (TBA)
Strut Mounts: (TBA)


As of now, these are the prices. I need to clarify with Jatin what the strut kit is and why it costs so much more than the shocks itelf..
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...Can someone tell me what this part looks like??...
Strut Kit --> Shock absorber + coil spring (+ etc + etc, in some cases including the disk brake assembly as well)
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I am so inspired to go out an buy a Civic AT after reading this thread. I have a second-hand Swift which I was thinking to converting to CNG given that I plan to drive to work everyday (after I learn to drive properly). But after reading this thread, I am thinking if I should convert the Swift to CNG and spend a 58K on the conversion or should I sell the Swift, get a Civic AT and convert that to CNG. Thoroughly confused.
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Sell swift, buy good Honda Civic or Automatic ANHC and convert to CNG!
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