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Old 5th October 2013, 13:06   #31
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When doing the remap we had noticed that my air filter was severly degraded and Vivek asked me to get the air filter replaced asap. The down'ed air filter as a result of the long drives and not so quaint terrains.

The ECU had come loose as well, the ECU clamps on to a bracket behind the air filter. Unlike the Vento there isn't a harness to which the ECU gets screwed. Wonder how these things change across the Vento and the Rapid. The SA was a little skeptical asking how it had come loose, I told him I was on a spirited drive on bad ghat and so it might have come off. Also told him that I had opened the air filter to clear it up it was then that I noticed that the ECU was hanging.

And so booked an appointment to get a replacement air filter and oil top up. Enquired for Longlife III which is supposed to be VW 507 complaint but apparently the Skoda dealers here in Pune only stock Shell. ANd so Shell Helix Ultra 5w30 it was.

Air Filter Rs. 380/-
700 ml Helix Ultra 5w30 - Rs. 811/-
Labor - Rs. 250/-

While removing the Air filter they clamped the ECU back on. The car feel so much smoother now, the air filter undoubtedly helps. Vivek has recommended that I clean the Air filter every 5K kms and definitely replace it during the annual service.

Can't wait to get on the highway again, like Mr Kryptonite once said I totally love the car and have absolutely no doubts this is the right choice in the 10L segment for those who like driving on the highways.
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Sorry for not following through with the Ownership report. Having done the Oil top up air filter change it was time for Super road trip with fellow car enthusiats to the mighty Rann of kutch.

Day 1. Pune - A'bad - Zainabad
Day 2. Zainabad - Little ROK - Greater ROK - Koteshwar
Day 3. Bhuj - A'bad - Pune

Three days and close to 2500 kms was one hell of a drive. The remapped rapid does a wonderful job. I at times felt loss of power at higher rpms, felt the original tune had more zing. Which latter after speaking to TOT guys realized was because I am too gentle on the throttle. THe maps are designed to kick in at 40% throttle and are generally designed to be driven with a slightly heavier right foot.

So ya having done the above, the car was a mess. Having driven through the RANN the air filter was a goner and the interiors of the car were a mess.

Quick wash wax and an interior cleaning package at 3M had the car all spick and span. The interior job at 3m also get the beading cleaned, dirty beading is most of the times responsible for all the rattle noises you hear. They also offered to do the AC clean by injecting some solution into the vents, I rejected did not want to mess with the internals.

In a months time it was time for the 30 K service, and this was coming at around the 1.2 year mark. Called Viirajj Skoda and booked me an appointment for the service. With the other dealer shutting down in Pune there's just one guy and that place gets busy. The closest appointment I got was 15 days away, didn't matter as long I was in around the 30K mark.

A day before the service I get a call from the service advisor reminding me of the service appointment, he inquired for my list of issues and what all I wanted to get done. And so the list was --

1. 30K service which includes air filter change and replacing the engine oil brake oil and so on.
2. I wanted to get my brakes checked out
3. RIght hand rear bearing noise was suspected so wanted to get that checked
4. Ever since the 205/55 upgrade the light seems all whacky and so wanted to get the lights adjusted

Apart from that I had no concerns, the SA offered interior cleaning and also offered the same thing that 3m was offering with the AC. When there I did see a 3m guy there as well, it looks like theres a deal there. Skoda also trying to sell 3m services. But ya I rejected that.

Left the car there to have it picked up around the evening. At around 1600 I get a call stating post service after everything was done the car refuses to start. That got me worried, I did not want to go deep into diagnostics in the fear of them finding out about my remap.

So I quickly headed there, had the guy look at the problem the diagnostics was saying an error in the injector sensor. They did try many things, unplugged one Injector sensor at a time. The MAF sensor was also a suspect which was ruled out as well. About an year ago rats had chewed through my sensor wires which I told them to check again, they also did suspect some wire being cut but couldn't nail it down.

After about 2-3 hours of trouble shooting they were ready to give up, and so I was shoo'd away asked to check tomorrow.

The next day after a couple of follow ups I was told they resolved the problem and Skoda has recommended an extended trial run. I was then after a couple of hours showed up at the show room saying I want to know what the problem was and how it was fixed. I was stubborn in wanting to speak to the guy who fixed it and wasn't interested in some crap theory by the SA. Finally after a couple of escalations they got hold of the guy who actually fixed it.

So there were two things done -
1. The sensor wires were re-tapped together
2. Air sucked out of the fuel line

Having spoken to TOT later this supposedly was caused because they did not prime the engine after having changed the fuel filter. So I suspect what happened over night was they sent an email or called up Skoda who identified the problem and told them to do a 40km run of the car to ensure the fuel line is cleared out completely.

The next day got the car fully functional though a bit roughed up from the inside. I guess the person doing the test drive wouldn't have been as respectful of my car as I am, but ya that didn't matter much as long as everything was functional and at its best.

Damages was around Rs. 16,000, 10K for the service, rotors were changed, + break pads, + a couple of thousands here and there for puny issues like light adjusted, scan done and so on.

During the course of this I also suspected they might have identified my map or they would have flashed the ROM. But actually you know what even after having driven the car for 40kms they couldn't realize the map. Having done a detailed diagnostics they couldn't recognize the map, the tech doing the on board diagnostics with his fancy laptop could not understand which button to click the one which says "NEXT" in green on one which says "BACK" in Red. meh..

So I met up with TOT a couple of weeks after the service and recited this story. They broke up in laughter saying I had told you they don't have the technical expertise to understand the map. When I got the Map I was worried about the EGR, the map turns it off and they would find out that the EGR was turned off but no check engine light showing woudl make it obvious. But clearly all that is just moot, the tech's at the workshop have no expertise to find out anything about the map.

When I met TOT I had a couple of queries for them --

1. When going up a ramp if I accelerate slowly then I don't power translated into wheels.

2. At high rpms, pushing the accelerator doesn't give me the right venom which I had felt originally.

Both of which they said was because I was too gentle on the accelerator, the power band is slightly different and so I have to be a bit more aggressive to get the power to show. By this he didn't mean I have drive like a maniac in the city, but just that don't be as gentle as I tend to be on the car.

And its been 34000kms since the car was bought in Sept 2012 and loving every bit of it.

Have a mamoth Pune - Bhutan road trip coming up, and so all efforts are now in getting the car ready for this.

1. Engine Oil
2. Spare Air filter
3. Puncture repair kit
4. Air compressor
5. Window blinds
6. Remove sun films
7. Upgrade lights -> I was in Japan recently and bought myself a pair of Giga H4 55/60 lights which supposedly give you 135/145 illumination. Put them in yesterday lets see if they really help.

8. Car was services recently so don't need to worry about the rest.
9. Alignment balancing of all 5 wheels

Anything else.....
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Damages was around Rs. 16,000, 10K for the service, rotors were changed, + break pads, + a couple of thousands here and there for puny issues like light adjusted, scan done and so on.
Hi

I am looking for the part number of Rapid's brake pads.

I see that you have got them replaced. It would be a great help if you could check up your bill from that service and share the part number for the brake pads.

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I am looking for the part number of Rapid's brake pads.

I see that you have got them replaced. It would be a great help if you could check up your bill from that service and share the part number for the brake pads.

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Hey, I am so sorry on the delay. The part number of the break pad is --6RU698151A. Charged at Rs. 1600 /pair.

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Followed by a couple of routine drives to Dharwad, Mumbai came the mamoth Pune-Bhutan-Pune covering 6500kms and then followed by the Monsoon drive to Goa-Dandeli.

On the way back from Dandeli I rammed into a deep pothhole at about 100, the alloy got bent. No air leakage, drove it back to pune and got the stephanie replaced. Having read and discussed with many it made sense to get the dent removed against the cost of buying a all new alloy. The tire had also developed a bubble which was most likely because of the bend.

Met a couple of guys and was recommend an alloy specialist on Satara road, they heat the alloy and use a machine to fix the bends. Charged 1500 bucks and made the alloy good as new, apparently this is the guy that all showrooms and insurance companies send their tires to.

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45000kms service was next up, routine service no niggles or anything Viraaj Skoda did a decent service job and the car was delivered on time.
Since I had banged into the poth hole, had them check the front suspension and no damages were reported.
The remap was not made and the car still is running on the updated map which was done for Bhutan. This map has slightly delayed turbo that way giving more grunt in the lower rpms, so as to avoid wheel spin.

Yoko S-drive have had 3 punctures in total, and have begun aging. They have done about 30K kms till now, possibly might do 5-10K more.

Having done the service did an extended weekend getaway to Badami Banshakari, the car again performed brilliantly.

Here's a few pics from Bhutan and Monsoon Drive -

Monsoon
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Enroute to Thimpu
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Car rests for 2 days in Kalimpong, having done Pune - Indore - Kota - Kanpur -Kushinagar - Purnea - Kalimpong
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I haven't said this enough but I love the car. Its an absolute pleasure to drive and just can't get enough of it and this after having done 47500kms in a little more than 2 years.
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Followed by a couple of routine drives to Dharwad, Mumbai came the mamoth Pune-Bhutan-Pune covering 6500kms and then followed by the Monsoon drive to Goa-Dandeli.

Amazing santosh, you have been driving a lot and that is one long journey you have covered.

Keep revving that 1.6 TDI and drive safe.



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No air leakage, drove it back to pune and got the stephanie replaced.
I am sure you just love your Car bro, but 'Stephanie' ??

I am sure you actually meant Stepney (Spare Tire), but I still like the fact that you not only pamper your car as a whole, you even pamper the spares!!
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I am sure you just love your Car bro, but 'Stephanie' ??

I am sure you actually meant Stepney (Spare Tire), but I still like the fact that you not only pamper your car as a whole, you even pamper the spares!!
LOL, that would be my bad completely. I wonder how I missed that, made the spare into a whole new person. .

"drove it back to pune and got the stephanie replaced" , should have been " drove back to pune and replaced the bent alloy with the stepney."
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Having done Badami - Hampi - Dharwad, went in to Skoda to get the Jounce rubber changed. This is the rubber thing that attaches to the top Jumper, the rear left had given away. It would turn into powder if I tried to pinch it, took the car to Skoda hoping only those would be required to change but that wasn't the case.

Here's how it looked -
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This jounce bumper is attached to the damper and so there was suspicion that the damper might have to be changed. So they picked it apart and found the damper had also given way, it wouldn't expand after having collapsed. When checking they also noticed that front suspension was beginning to give away, and so those two dampers were changed as well.

At 51K kms entire suspension had to be overhauled, if you think about it the reason for this is mostly the hardened rubber of Yoko S drives. Harder rubber would mean they are putting alot of pressure on the suspension, which eventually caused it to give away.

Here's a list of the parts changed -
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Total bill of 36K, having done this on the test run as happened in the previous services the car wouldn't start. After an evening of struggling they figured out that one of fuse was loose and that was causing the check engine warning light to come on.

Another test drive and some underbody noise was reported, they claim this could be coming from the steering rack. He did say that they could cover this in the extended warranty, however I have not noticed this mysterious noise. And so I suspect this could be mistake by driver who does the test drive and might be reporting something else.

A couple of thousand kms after that having done Pune - Surat and then Pune - Goa I was feeling alot of humming sound coming from the left front. A quick diagnostic run by a friend suggested that this could be from the bearing, with the approx cost of bearing replace being 13k per piece I was a little worried.

Took the car to Viraaj again, and the SA said he could get the bearings fixed under warranty. This would take a week for the approvals to come through but should happen, is what he claimed. Mostly he did not pay notice to the upsized tires else I have a feeling he might have rejected the claim outright. From what I understand and I may be wrong but it is possible that Tires -> caused the Suspension to give away -> which caused the Bearings to give away. And in all probability Skoda would have rejected the claim stating after market alloys and upsized tires, but yes got a call the same day claiming that the bearings and everything looks right nothing wrong there. The humming sound he claimed was coming from the tyres, because they had worn out quite a bit it was them causing the hum.

And so out go the worn out S drives and in come Continental CPC2's, they costed 6400 a piece. And the Skoda guy was right, having changed the tires the humming is gone. Comparing to the S drives the CPC2's feel lighter and gripier.

Worn out S drives -
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If you note the tires actually haven't given away fully, but yes they have worn out a bit.

Note the CPC2's are more 10-14, but thats the thing with these tires because they are an uncommon size and imported they come in 3 months late, nevertheless the do feel much nicer -

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Having spent 36K on suspension and 25k on the tires the car's now rejuvenated and ready for another 50K kms. Upcoming trip : Pune - Hyd - Andhra coast - Pune should prove as a good measure to gauge the performance of the mighty CPC2's.

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Thanks for the update Santosh, 36k is a bit steep but nice to know that it included full suspension overhaul with even rear struts. The labour rates are quite steep though at 14k.

I dont think you should blame the tyres so much on this early suspension overhaul. I own a Vento which has done around 33k and my friend has a Rapid which has done 34k, we were facing noisy suspension +a lot of pitching, showed it to our trusted mechanic and he did say that in both the cars, the shockers had worn out around 60-70% and the link rods are shot as well in both cars. My car is running on 195/60 bridgestones but Rapid is running on 195/60 Michelin XM1 which is a very soft tyre. Both cars are driven very very hard around corners and on highways, both cars have seen very poor roads but the car has never been abused on broken patches.

It seems the life of suspension in Vento/Rapid is only 45-50k if you drive really hard and driving involves potholed roads. Maybe VW have compromised on the quality of suspension components because link rods giving away within 35k kms is premature.

Planning to change the tyres and will decide between CPC2 or Hankook V8 in 205/55/15.
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Having spent 36K on suspension and 25k on the tires the car's now rejuvenated and ready for another 50K kms. Upcoming trip : Pune - Hyd - Andhra coast - Pune should prove as a good measure to gauge the performance of the mighty CPC2's.
Hi

Can you please put up the bill for the suspension work. It would be really helpful to know the part numbers and the cost. My car is probably due for some suspension work so I was thinking of sourcing the parts from VW as Skoda doesn't have its presence here.

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Today was the last day of my ownership, would not have sold it had I not been moving. Wonderful car with loads of heart and huge potential. 3 years 3 months and 77000 kms later, this included trips to Bhutan, Uttarakhand, MP, Chattisgarh, Gujarat and many more.

An year ago I had the remap removed and was running stock, many may disagree but I always felt at higher rpms when cruising at 100/120 on the stock the car had much more to offer than with on the tuned map. With the tuned map the lower end torque was beautiful but I needed that jolt at 100 instead of an accelerating profile starting from 0. So ya anyways running stock for almost an year now, apart from regular service the only things I got done was a suspension overhaul and front fender replacement. Service at 75K was routine, clutch overhaul was being pitched by the SA but I don't think its required yet. I have driven a friends Vento @50K and the clutch is equally hard. This has always been the case.

The car was sold to an end user for 5L, selling a user Skoda is incredibly difficult. Carwale/olx/quikr/gozoomo and all known sites "0" is the number of calls I got thats right none. Dealer network was not ready to offer more than 3.75-4.00, I started quoting 6L to end users which finally settled at 5. Not too bad for a 3 year old 75K run TDI car, however I have to consider myself lucky.

Here's some pictures if you wish to look at the various fun trips I had with the car - https://www.facebook.com/santoshrao9...0825628&type=3
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After driving Skoda what next?
I'm sure you have enjoyed the drivability of it.
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Today was the last day of my ownership, would not have sold it had I not been moving. Wonderful car with loads of heart and huge potential. 3 years 3 months and 77000 kms later, this included trips to Bhutan, Uttarakhand, MP, Chattisgarh, Gujarat and many more.
Hi santoshr,
It might not have been easy to part with a car that you like and that is associated with many happy memories.

5L is surely a good price.

Would you buy a Rapid (or a Vento) again? And if I may ask, where are you shifting to?
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