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Old 3rd August 2017, 09:48   #361
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What scares me is the possiblity of getting scammed once the BSI pack runs out next year. I enquired from them about the extension of BSI pack and the price for 10 year/1L kms is around 4.5L out of which I have effectively paid 2.5L for the first 5 years. So I will need to give around 2L more which will cover me for the service requirements for another 5 years.
It will be extended warranty plus BSI, right? If yes, then it is definitely worth it. With that you are completely covered against any major repair (like, suspension replacement for example) and can keep the car as long as you wish.

Also, much of that 2L would mostly be recovered during resale if you decide to let it go in a couple of years or so.
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It will be extended warranty plus BSI, right? If yes, then it is definitely worth it. With that you are completely covered against any major repair (like, suspension replacement for example) and can keep the car as long as you wish.

Also, much of that 2L would mostly be recovered during resale if you decide to let it go in a couple of years or so.
No it is only for service. The warranty would lapse at end of 5 years as per my original BSI. Even if I want to extend that then I can do so only for another year i.e. BMW offers warranty pack only till the 6th year. Also the cost of that additional 1 year of coverage is pretty steep, approx. around Rs. 1.2L or somewhere around that figure. I am willing to pay more if they had given an option to extend warranty.
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No it is only for service. The warranty would lapse at end of 5 years as per my original BSI. Even if I want to extend that then I can do so only for another year i.e. BMW offers warranty pack only till the 6th year. Also the cost of that additional 1 year of coverage is pretty steep, approx. around Rs. 1.2L or somewhere around that figure. I am willing to pay more if they had given an option to extend warranty.
Then I don't think it's worth it. You will be spending 2L upfront for next five years only for service whereas the major expense would be most probably resulting from parts replacement.

Also, by opting out of BSI, you would have the flexibility of getting the car serviced at any FNG and order the parts online from abroad which will be cheaper, in general.

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What scares me is the possiblity of getting scammed once the BSI pack runs out next year.
I have seen quite a few FNGs working on premium cars in Delhi and I would suggest you move out to one of them once you are out of warranty. Continuing with the ASC seems pointless if the car will anyway be out of warranty after the 6th year. Owners here on the forum can help you sourcing parts at good prices too.
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I have seen quite a few FNGs working on premium cars in Delhi and I would suggest you move out to one of them once you are out of warranty. Continuing with the ASC seems pointless if the car will anyway be out of warranty after the 6th year. Owners here on the forum can help you sourcing parts at good prices too.
Sir any pointers to these FNGs in Delhi? I would definitely visit them provided they have some good recommendations.
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Sir any pointers to these FNGs in Delhi? I would definitely visit them provided they have some good recommendations.
There is only one I recommend since he is a close friend, a total car noob AND does not believe in daylight robbery. His bills for premium cars (mostly Bimmers and Mercs) are in the Maruti ASC range.

Devender Singh from Bosch Car Care, Sheetla Mata Mandir Road, Gurgaon. Near Atul Kataria Chowk.

Just tell him that Dev from Bangalore sent you there. His number is: +91- 9899245678.

Let me know in case you have any questions.
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Change of shoes: My car's stock Bridgestone RFTs had run 42k kms and were now up for change. They would have lasted me another 10k kms but the rear left tyre got a side wall cut and hence I decided to change them. After a lot of dilly dallying, I finally opted for the regular tubeless route as it is so highly recommended on the forum. Going by my previous experience with Michelin XM2 on my Altis, I opted for the Michelin Primacy 3ST for the 3 series since that is the only one which comes in the stock size for my car which is 225/55 R16. The tyres costed me 11,400 per piece including the fitment and alignment and balancing.

Initial experience has been a mixed one till now. The ride comfort has really transformed and I feel I am driving the Altis and not the Bimmer since the ride has magically become carpet like. However at the same time I feel it is a compromise on the sporty feel of the car as I prefer the relatively hard RFTs where you feel connected to the ride. The ride has become too soft for my liking. I am maintaining 33 PSI in all 4 tyres currently and would like to see if increasing the pressure by a little would probably add some feel to the drive. What is the ideal tyre pressure that I can play with staying within the safety margin?

Also I have a doubt which I need to get clarity on. My car is covered under warranty for another year. Will the switch to tubeless void the warranty atleast with regard to suspension or anything else that can be blamed on the tyres? Or does it make no difference since I have no changed the size of the tyre but only switched to a non RFT set up. If it does play with warranty, I would rather switch to my old RFTs (which I have kept) before I give my car for servicing and then switch back to the Michelins post service.
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Change of shoes: My car's stock Bridgestone RFTs had run 42k kms and were now up for change. They would have lasted me another 10k kms but the rear left tyre got a side wall cut and hence I decided to change them.
52k would have been too much of a stretch. IMO, it is risky to keep them running beyond 40k or so even if there is some thread depth left.

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Also I have a doubt which I need to get clarity on. My car is covered under warranty for another year. Will the switch to tubeless void the warranty atleast with regard to suspension or anything else that can be blamed on the tyres? Or does it make no difference since I have no changed the size of the tyre but only switched to a non RFT set up. If it does play with warranty, I would rather switch to my old RFTs (which I have kept) before I give my car for servicing and then switch back to the Michelins post service.
I don't think it will affect warranty in any form. Though I do not have formal information on this but once a SA told me that they do not check if the tyres are changed or not while rewarding the warranty claims.
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I don't think it will affect warranty in any form. Though I do not have formal information on this but once a SA told me that they do not check if the tyres are changed or not while rewarding the warranty claims.
BMW seems to differ on this and says that warranty will be voided. I mailed them asking about the same and following is their response.

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Dear Dr. Gupta,

Thank you for your email addressed to BMW India.

With reference to your query, we wish to inform you that, "Your BMW is equipped with a unique state of art tyre technology known as Run Flat Tyre (RFT). All the vehicle specifications and characteristics concerning various component groups (chassis, suspension, steering etc.) are designed, set and tested according to the tyres (RFT) fitted. Further we wish to inform you that the specification of tubeless tyres (non-RFT) may not match with the original specification of these component, as they are designed/tuned to function with RFT tyres on the car.

In case of deviation from original specifications of tyres (non-RFT) these component group may not function as these are supposed to and may affect the warranty of your vehicle.

Thank you for bringing the matter to our notice and giving us an opportunity to offer our comments. For any other assistance, in future, please feel free to contact us again.

With kind regards,
BMW India Customer Service
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BMW seems to differ on this and says that warranty will be voided. I mailed them asking about the same and following is their response.
That's too bad. The car can run on spare wheel of insane profile, which is tubeless by the way, but not on tubeless tyres.

Anyway, thanks for posting the response here.
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That's too bad. The car can run on spare wheel of insane profile, which is tubeless by the way, but not on tubeless tyres.

Anyway, thanks for posting the response here.
Usually going by my past experience with BMW service, I am not really sure if they ever check the tyre and its make. They do check the tread depth at one service centre in NCR while at the other even this is not done. But it is still a risk as one never knows when this might come back to bite you.
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