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Old 5th October 2006, 11:34   #346
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Is Civic really quicker than Embera? I had the impression that the Embera is almost as fast as the RS.
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Old 5th October 2006, 13:13   #347
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Civic is quite quick and the engine is buttery smooth honda all the way to 7k rpm.
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Old 5th October 2006, 18:47   #348
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Is Civic really quicker than Embera?
Yes it is...

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I had the impression that the Embera is almost as fast as the RS.
No it isn't. RS is still the fastest on Indian Roads.
Civic is only few miliseconds behind RS but much ahead in Mileage!
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Old 7th October 2006, 13:01   #349
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I agree totally that Civic is a very good car and anyone owning any car loves it butttttttttttt

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4. Civic is quicker and more fuel efficient (ofcourse it is smaller and lighter)
No way is a Civic quicker then a Embera infact the Embera blows an Accord as well and is quite close to the RS.

5. Space wise, since Civic has a longest wheel base (in it's segment), there is not too much diff in internal space between the two.
There is miles of difference between the two. The Sonata is so much more bigger and space is ample. The rear of the Civic has a Seat, the rear of the Embera has a Sofa. Even after having the longest wheelbase and high profile rubber the ride of the Civic is still not up to the mark i expected.

8. I trust Honda much more than Hyundai
And for me its the other way round
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and anyone owning any car loves it butttttttttttt
I am saying why I went for CIVIC over Embera, which means these were the reasons I bought Civic and NOT Embera and that is with price of both of them close to each other...

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No way is a Civic quicker then a Embera infact the Embera blows an Accord as well and is quite close to the RS.
Following are 0-100 figures for the cars in question...
Embera - 10.1 secs
Civic (MT) - 9.3 secs
Octavia RS - 9.07 secs

City FE of CIVIC is around 10kmpl whereas City FE of Embera is around 7kmpl


Rest we can all differ in our opinions...
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Following are 0-100 figures for the cars in question...
Embera - 10.1 secs
Civic (MT) - 9.3 secs
Octavia RS - 9.07 secs
Just to add, the 0-100 for Accord 2.4 manual are ~ 9.5 secs - so no way an Embera can smoke an Accord. And we all know the difference between Japanese and Korean horses

Ps - ST, are those figures from ACI (those are the only guys I trust with 0-100 timings)

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5. Space wise, since Civic has a longest wheel base (in it's segment), there is not too much diff in internal space between the two.
There is miles of difference between the two. The Sonata is so much more bigger and space is ample. The rear of the Civic has a Seat, the rear of the Embera has a Sofa. Even after having the longest wheelbase and high profile rubber the ride of the Civic is still not up to the mark i expected.


I am sure you have not compared the two yourself and that is why you are making such sweeping statements.
Anyway since you will not accept my observations here are the actual numbers...

Front Room:
CIVIC 120cm
Embera 116cm

Rear Knee Room:
CIVIC 91cm
Embera 90cm

Shoulder Room
Civic 143cm
Embera 142cm

Oh! I am sorry, you created this thread as a Civic bashing thread. As per you Optra, Skoda, Hyundai, Toyota, all are better than Civic, right!!!

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3. Civic will hold it's value longer and will have better resale value
5. Space wise, since Civic has a longest wheel base (in it's segment), there is not too much diff in internal space between the two.
l...
Are you sure. I thought the Embera was more the size and internal space of the Accord.
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Following are 0-100 figures for the cars in question...
Embera - 10.1 secs
Civic (MT) - 9.3 secs
Octavia RS - 9.07 secs
The RS 0-100 is 8.4 secs

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While I would agree that Embera has slightly roomier interior all I am saying is that due to the larger wheel base of CIVIC, the difference between interior cabin space of Civic and Embera is very marginal...

Wheel base is one of the most important factor determining interior space in the car, please find the wheelbase of few cars below and decide for yourself (all measurements from their respective company websites)

Accord - 2740mm
Embera - 2730mm (only 3cm more than Civic)!
Civic - 2700mm (19 cm more than Octavia, 10 cm more than Corolla)!
Corolla - 2600mm
Octavia - 2512mm

Civic has a cab forward design and a smaller boot at the same time, which means that it uses space from both ends for providing the largest cabin size in it's segment which in turn is very much comparable to a next segment car.

PJSpeed, I prefer to go by my own experience than follow these numbers, and I found Civic much more peppy than the Embera... (but that's my personal opinion).
I shared these numbers from Autocar. All the performance data is so in consistent, but Autocar seems to be most respectable on this front!

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Accord - 2740mm
Embera - 2730mm (only 3cm more than Civic)!
Civic - 2700mm (19 cm more than Octavia, 10 cm more than Corolla)!
...and the civic has only 4cm less than the accord. that IS nice.
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A few days ago, I test drove both the Corolla and the Civic as someone wanted an opinion from me as to which car he should go for. The Civic had 4800 km on the odo and the Corolla 13700.

In a nutshell, the Civic felt state of the art and driver oriented while the Corolla felt better built and more focussed on comfort.

I was slightly disappointed with the Civic after all the hype surrounding it.
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ST7677 - yaar leave it - from the beginning BUSA has been civic bashing. I am glad you compared both and found the civic better overall. I never even considered embera - felt it was too expensive - never realised that they have to discount it so much. Anyway it was too big from outside, too little inside, not much character overall.

And for all you non-honda guys - yes honda ride is always trademark stiff - better for handling, less body roll and longer lasting.
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@Floyd - corolla to me seems quite a bit tinny, not better built. You are just more insulated so you feel it is better built. But otherwise you are quite right in the nutshell. Yes, there was a lot of hype and certainly it is no 3 series beamer, but I would pay for the more modern tech and looks. To me it was a better baby or mini accord.
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As per you Optra, Skoda, Hyundai, Toyota, all are better than Civic, right!!!
Why dont you sit in all the cars you will feel quite similar to me, which car is better in terms of internal space. Civic is no ways as roomier as the Embera, Optra, Corolla. PERIOD.

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Civic has a cab forward design and a smaller boot at the same time, which means that it uses space from both ends for providing the largest cabin size in it's segment which in turn is very much comparable to a next segment car.
LOL. Civic is the shortest car in the D segment in lenght FYI, so obviously after using all the boot space and hood space it wont be still the roomiest. Also Civic dashboard is huge, wont it take up space??
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